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Attributes | |
ACN | 281568 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gtk |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 32000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma tracon : phx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-83 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 185 flight time total : 16737 flight time type : 3156 |
ASRS Report | 281568 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Both engines lost power to approximately 1-2-1.3 EPR-IAS bled to approximately 220 KTS. Mach .610 (from .760). An immediate attempt was made to contact ZMA for a lower altitude (290). Unable to contact ATC immediately due to frequency congestion. Descended anyway to FL320 because of impending stall buffet. At FL320 contact was established with miami ATC advising them of the situation. By FL320, power was restored (after use of engine anti-ice) and climb back to FL330 was accomplished, we were in the clear at the time of the power loss. Approximately 15-20 mins earlier engine anti-ice had been used due to tropical thunderstorm activity and visible moisture as cirrus clouds, and as per MD83 procedures. Fuel heat was also applied, however, there was no annunciator panel warning indicating a need for fuel heat. It was noted there was an approximately 15 degree fuel temperature disparity between the left (plus 12 degree centigrade) engine and the right (minus 30 degree centigrade) engine. The flight proceeded on to sju without further incident. Jet fuel controllers? Engine ice in clear air? Bermuda triangle? Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: even after 3 months passage of time. The reporter does not know what the problem was. It might have been the performance management system being in the 'performance mode' and then partially failing, or the bermuda triangle. Turning on the engine anti-ice brought the engines back to power.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PARTIAL PWR LOSS ON BOTH ENGS.
Narrative: BOTH ENGS LOST PWR TO APPROX 1-2-1.3 EPR-IAS BLED TO APPROX 220 KTS. MACH .610 (FROM .760). AN IMMEDIATE ATTEMPT WAS MADE TO CONTACT ZMA FOR A LOWER ALT (290). UNABLE TO CONTACT ATC IMMEDIATELY DUE TO FREQ CONGESTION. DSNDED ANYWAY TO FL320 BECAUSE OF IMPENDING STALL BUFFET. AT FL320 CONTACT WAS ESTABLISHED WITH MIAMI ATC ADVISING THEM OF THE SIT. BY FL320, PWR WAS RESTORED (AFTER USE OF ENG ANTI-ICE) AND CLB BACK TO FL330 WAS ACCOMPLISHED, WE WERE IN THE CLR AT THE TIME OF THE PWR LOSS. APPROX 15-20 MINS EARLIER ENG ANTI-ICE HAD BEEN USED DUE TO TROPICAL TSTM ACTIVITY AND VISIBLE MOISTURE AS CIRRUS CLOUDS, AND AS PER MD83 PROCS. FUEL HEAT WAS ALSO APPLIED, HOWEVER, THERE WAS NO ANNUNCIATOR PANEL WARNING INDICATING A NEED FOR FUEL HEAT. IT WAS NOTED THERE WAS AN APPROX 15 DEG FUEL TEMP DISPARITY BTWN THE L (PLUS 12 DEG CENTIGRADE) ENG AND THE R (MINUS 30 DEG CENTIGRADE) ENG. THE FLT PROCEEDED ON TO SJU WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. JET FUEL CTLRS? ENG ICE IN CLR AIR? BERMUDA TRIANGLE? CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: EVEN AFTER 3 MONTHS PASSAGE OF TIME. THE RPTR DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE PROB WAS. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE PERFORMANCE MGMNT SYS BEING IN THE 'PERFORMANCE MODE' AND THEN PARTIALLY FAILING, OR THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE. TURNING ON THE ENG ANTI-ICE BROUGHT THE ENGS BACK TO PWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.