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Attributes | |
ACN | 282297 |
Time | |
Date | 199409 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : prc |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5400 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent other other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 375 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 282297 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were returning from a 4 hour training flight (night, dual, cross country) the observer in the back called out traffic below us, apparently not moving in relation to us. Because we were maneuvering for the traffic pattern, I knew that any traffic below us had to be close. I looked below and to the right to determine if any evasive action needed to be taken. I observed red and green lights and strobes. While the 3 of us (myself, student, observer) were pre-occupied with the traffic, we had descended below tpa of 6000 ft to below 5400 ft in an area where the terrain is about 5200 ft MSL. Contributing to this event were these factors: 1) I should have designated the task of flying the airplane to the student while I searched for traffic (I told him to maintain 7000 ft, but apparently he misread the altimeter). 2) I should have monitored the student's progress a little closer, especially in light of the fact that he was tired, inexperienced, and hadn't flown in many months, and 3) I haven't pressed home the fact that flying the airplane is the most important task for the PIC. It turns out that the flashing lights and strobes were from an arizona highway patrol car on an unlighted rural road.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A GA ACFT IN A CTLED FLT TOWARDS TERRAIN DURING A NIGHT OP.
Narrative: WE WERE RETURNING FROM A 4 HR TRAINING FLT (NIGHT, DUAL, XCOUNTRY) THE OBSERVER IN THE BACK CALLED OUT TFC BELOW US, APPARENTLY NOT MOVING IN RELATION TO US. BECAUSE WE WERE MANEUVERING FOR THE TFC PATTERN, I KNEW THAT ANY TFC BELOW US HAD TO BE CLOSE. I LOOKED BELOW AND TO THE R TO DETERMINE IF ANY EVASIVE ACTION NEEDED TO BE TAKEN. I OBSERVED RED AND GREEN LIGHTS AND STROBES. WHILE THE 3 OF US (MYSELF, STUDENT, OBSERVER) WERE PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THE TFC, WE HAD DSNDED BELOW TPA OF 6000 FT TO BELOW 5400 FT IN AN AREA WHERE THE TERRAIN IS ABOUT 5200 FT MSL. CONTRIBUTING TO THIS EVENT WERE THESE FACTORS: 1) I SHOULD HAVE DESIGNATED THE TASK OF FLYING THE AIRPLANE TO THE STUDENT WHILE I SEARCHED FOR TFC (I TOLD HIM TO MAINTAIN 7000 FT, BUT APPARENTLY HE MISREAD THE ALTIMETER). 2) I SHOULD HAVE MONITORED THE STUDENT'S PROGRESS A LITTLE CLOSER, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT HE WAS TIRED, INEXPERIENCED, AND HADN'T FLOWN IN MANY MONTHS, AND 3) I HAVEN'T PRESSED HOME THE FACT THAT FLYING THE AIRPLANE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TASK FOR THE PIC. IT TURNS OUT THAT THE FLASHING LIGHTS AND STROBES WERE FROM AN ARIZONA HWY PATROL CAR ON AN UNLIGHTED RURAL ROAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.