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Attributes | |
ACN | 283628 |
Time | |
Date | 199409 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ict |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 5200 |
ASRS Report | 283628 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4250 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
My aircraft was given position and hold on runway 32, B737 Y cleared for takeoff on runway 1L. Runway 32 has 4250 ft to intersection, runway 1L has 6200 ft to intersection. I estimate B737 Y crossed runway 32 100-200 ft AGL. I was given takeoff clearance as the B737 Y crossed my runway, which I declined, and told the controller I wanted a 1 or 2 min delay for turbulence. He reissued the clearance about 1 min later, and I departed without incident, but , I did observe crossing runway 01L at about 200 ft AGL. I feel that an encounter with the B737 Y wake would have been uncomfortable at best and possibly catastrophic at such a low altitude. There has been much publicity about avoiding wake turbulence recently. I feel that local controllers should be more cognizant of the potential risks of close tolerance departures at intersecting runways.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT X POSSIBLE WAKE TURB FROM B737 Y.
Narrative: MY ACFT WAS GIVEN POS AND HOLD ON RWY 32, B737 Y CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 1L. RWY 32 HAS 4250 FT TO INTXN, RWY 1L HAS 6200 FT TO INTXN. I ESTIMATE B737 Y CROSSED RWY 32 100-200 FT AGL. I WAS GIVEN TKOF CLRNC AS THE B737 Y CROSSED MY RWY, WHICH I DECLINED, AND TOLD THE CTLR I WANTED A 1 OR 2 MIN DELAY FOR TURB. HE REISSUED THE CLRNC ABOUT 1 MIN LATER, AND I DEPARTED WITHOUT INCIDENT, BUT , I DID OBSERVE XING RWY 01L AT ABOUT 200 FT AGL. I FEEL THAT AN ENCOUNTER WITH THE B737 Y WAKE WOULD HAVE BEEN UNCOMFORTABLE AT BEST AND POSSIBLY CATASTROPHIC AT SUCH A LOW ALT. THERE HAS BEEN MUCH PUBLICITY ABOUT AVOIDING WAKE TURB RECENTLY. I FEEL THAT LCL CTLRS SHOULD BE MORE COGNIZANT OF THE POTENTIAL RISKS OF CLOSE TOLERANCE DEPS AT INTERSECTING RWYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.