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Attributes | |
ACN | 284152 |
Time | |
Date | 199409 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bjj |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cak tower : ont |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 92 flight time total : 2920 |
ASRS Report | 284152 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Had just departed the airport, VFR, looking to pick up an IFR with akron departure. Departure gave us a squawk code and a TA and 'suggested' we maintain 7000 ft to avoid traffic at 8000 ft. The suggestion was given to us as we were passing through 7000 ft. By the time we leveled we were at 8000 ft with traffic converging. We decided to continue our climb to our original predetermined altitude of 10500 ft. Contributing factors: should have picked up the IFR clearance on the ground, should not have taken the suggestion to level at 7000 ft due to our high rate of climb.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT REQUESTING IFR CLRNC CLBS THROUGH OCCUPIED ALT.
Narrative: HAD JUST DEPARTED THE ARPT, VFR, LOOKING TO PICK UP AN IFR WITH AKRON DEP. DEP GAVE US A SQUAWK CODE AND A TA AND 'SUGGESTED' WE MAINTAIN 7000 FT TO AVOID TFC AT 8000 FT. THE SUGGESTION WAS GIVEN TO US AS WE WERE PASSING THROUGH 7000 FT. BY THE TIME WE LEVELED WE WERE AT 8000 FT WITH TFC CONVERGING. WE DECIDED TO CONTINUE OUR CLB TO OUR ORIGINAL PREDETERMINED ALT OF 10500 FT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: SHOULD HAVE PICKED UP THE IFR CLRNC ON THE GND, SHOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THE SUGGESTION TO LEVEL AT 7000 FT DUE TO OUR HIGH RATE OF CLB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.