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Captain of an light transport purposely deviated course filed to cut off a 'dog leg' in the course and ATC intervened to question the reporter's position.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 285309 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199410 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dlg |
| State Reference | AK |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zan |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 400 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 285309 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were flying the victor airway from dillingham east to king salmon northeast to homer. The captain, shortly after departing dillingham, suggested a 20 degree turn to the left to 'cut the corner' around king salmon. Distraction by chatter on the company frequency, I failed to realize that the captain did not request this deviation with ATC. As we passed north of king salmon, zan queried us as to why we were passing so far to the north of king salmon instead of overflying it. The captain responded that we indeed were cutting the corner and had errantly 'made our turn too soon.' I feel that I, as the PF, should have paid more attention to the captain when he suggested the turn. Had I not allowed myself to become engrossed in the conversation on the company frequency, I would have had the presence of mind to challenge the captain on his decision made independently of ATC authority/authorized.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN LTT PURPOSELY DEVIATED COURSE FILED TO CUT OFF A 'DOG LEG' IN THE COURSE AND ATC INTERVENED TO QUESTION THE RPTR'S POS.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING THE VICTOR AIRWAY FROM DILLINGHAM E TO KING SALMON NE TO HOMER. THE CAPT, SHORTLY AFTER DEPARTING DILLINGHAM, SUGGESTED A 20 DEG TURN TO THE L TO 'CUT THE CORNER' AROUND KING SALMON. DISTR BY CHATTER ON THE COMPANY FREQ, I FAILED TO REALIZE THAT THE CAPT DID NOT REQUEST THIS DEV WITH ATC. AS WE PASSED N OF KING SALMON, ZAN QUERIED US AS TO WHY WE WERE PASSING SO FAR TO THE N OF KING SALMON INSTEAD OF OVERFLYING IT. THE CAPT RESPONDED THAT WE INDEED WERE CUTTING THE CORNER AND HAD ERRANTLY 'MADE OUR TURN TOO SOON.' I FEEL THAT I, AS THE PF, SHOULD HAVE PAID MORE ATTN TO THE CAPT WHEN HE SUGGESTED THE TURN. HAD I NOT ALLOWED MYSELF TO BECOME ENGROSSED IN THE CONVERSATION ON THE COMPANY FREQ, I WOULD HAVE HAD THE PRESENCE OF MIND TO CHALLENGE THE CAPT ON HIS DECISION MADE INDEPENDENTLY OF ATC AUTH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.