Small aircraft X refused practice IFR approachs makes multiple missed approachs at airport with zero...

Attributes
ACN	287597
Time
Date	199410
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : hvn
State Reference	CT
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90 tower : teb
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing : missed approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	287597
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified atc
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

IFR flight plan for training purposes. TRACON would not approve practice approachs. We opted instead, for a full stop to hvn airport where visibility was about 1/8 mi (below minimums). We had a legal alternate (pvd) and plenty of fuel (4 1/2 hours) for a 20 min flight. We flew approach at hvn and were forced to make a missed approach. We tried again and were unable to land. At that point we request fok airport where it was now VFR. Along the way we asked for and received practice approachs at fok. We departed fok VFR to our departure airport (isp). We asked for and received practice approachs at isp also. When we landed we were asked to call TRACON supervisor on telephone. He told me that I upset the system by getting practice approachs after he denied the original clearance. He said he would be reporting this incident to flight standards. To be honest, I don't think I did anything improper. I had a legal alternate and plenty of fuel. He chastised me and seemed more concerned with the fact that I was out to give my student the practice he needed after the supervisor initially denied the clearance.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SMA X REFUSED PRACTICE IFR APCHS MAKES MULTIPLE MISSED APCHS AT ARPT WITH ZERO VISIBILITY.

Narrative: IFR FLT PLAN FOR TRAINING PURPOSES. TRACON WOULD NOT APPROVE PRACTICE APCHS. WE OPTED INSTEAD, FOR A FULL STOP TO HVN ARPT WHERE VISIBILITY WAS ABOUT 1/8 MI (BELOW MINIMUMS). WE HAD A LEGAL ALTERNATE (PVD) AND PLENTY OF FUEL (4 1/2 HRS) FOR A 20 MIN FLT. WE FLEW APCH AT HVN AND WERE FORCED TO MAKE A MISSED APCH. WE TRIED AGAIN AND WERE UNABLE TO LAND. AT THAT POINT WE REQUEST FOK ARPT WHERE IT WAS NOW VFR. ALONG THE WAY WE ASKED FOR AND RECEIVED PRACTICE APCHS AT FOK. WE DEPARTED FOK VFR TO OUR DEP ARPT (ISP). WE ASKED FOR AND RECEIVED PRACTICE APCHS AT ISP ALSO. WHEN WE LANDED WE WERE ASKED TO CALL TRACON SUPVR ON TELEPHONE. HE TOLD ME THAT I UPSET THE SYS BY GETTING PRACTICE APCHS AFTER HE DENIED THE ORIGINAL CLRNC. HE SAID HE WOULD BE RPTING THIS INCIDENT TO FLT STANDARDS. TO BE HONEST, I DON'T THINK I DID ANYTHING IMPROPER. I HAD A LEGAL ALTERNATE AND PLENTY OF FUEL. HE CHASTISED ME AND SEEMED MORE CONCERNED WITH THE FACT THAT I WAS OUT TO GIVE MY STUDENT THE PRACTICE HE NEEDED AFTER THE SUPVR INITIALLY DENIED THE CLRNC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Small aircraft X refused practice IFR approachs makes multiple missed approachs at airport with zero visibility.