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ZHN ARTCC questions dc-10 crew regarding the amended clearance altitude change received and by whom?
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 291078 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199412 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : mkk |
| State Reference | HI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 30000 msl bound upper : 30000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : pacific enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : zhn |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 291078 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 291084 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On departure from honolulu, the first officer was flying, I was working the radios we were given climb to flight level 320 which I read back and we did climb to that level. At 320 center called to say he showed we were only cleared to FL300. We said it was 320 by departure control. He said ok stay at 320, which we did. Supplemental information from acn 291984: on initial callup I had requested FL320 as per flight plan, however clearance delivery advised of being unable FL320 and asked what flight level would we like. I then requested FL300. The captain contacted departure on 119.1 and gave altitude and 'climbing to 5000 ft,' in which departure replied roger climb and maintain 'FL320.' the captain acknowledged this and set and armed FL320. He remarked that we had been delayed long enough (approximately 1 hour) on the ground. That FL320 must now be available to use. (Since we had been told FL320 wasn't available and given FL300 from hnl clearance prior to pushback.) we had not been given any other frequency changes and once established at FL320 and had checked chuts. The captain tried to contact hnl on 119.1 the assigned frequency and was unable to get a response. He did contact that on 127.6 and gave them level at FL320 passed chuts. No conflicts this time, better judgement would have been to question that department on the flight level.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZHN ARTCC QUESTIONS DC-10 CREW REGARDING THE AMENDED CLRNC ALT CHANGE RECEIVED AND BY WHOM?
Narrative: ON DEP FROM HONOLULU, THE FO WAS FLYING, I WAS WORKING THE RADIOS WE WERE GIVEN CLB TO FLT LEVEL 320 WHICH I READ BACK AND WE DID CLB TO THAT LEVEL. AT 320 CTR CALLED TO SAY HE SHOWED WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO FL300. WE SAID IT WAS 320 BY DEP CTL. HE SAID OK STAY AT 320, WHICH WE DID. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 291984: ON INITIAL CALLUP I HAD REQUESTED FL320 AS PER FLT PLAN, HOWEVER CLRNC DELIVERY ADVISED OF BEING UNABLE FL320 AND ASKED WHAT FLT LEVEL WOULD WE LIKE. I THEN REQUESTED FL300. THE CAPT CONTACTED DEP ON 119.1 AND GAVE ALT AND 'CLBING TO 5000 FT,' IN WHICH DEP REPLIED ROGER CLB AND MAINTAIN 'FL320.' THE CAPT ACKNOWLEDGED THIS AND SET AND ARMED FL320. HE REMARKED THAT WE HAD BEEN DELAYED LONG ENOUGH (APPROX 1 HR) ON THE GND. THAT FL320 MUST NOW BE AVAILABLE TO USE. (SINCE WE HAD BEEN TOLD FL320 WASN'T AVAILABLE AND GIVEN FL300 FROM HNL CLRNC PRIOR TO PUSHBACK.) WE HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY OTHER FREQ CHANGES AND ONCE ESTABLISHED AT FL320 AND HAD CHKED CHUTS. THE CAPT TRIED TO CONTACT HNL ON 119.1 THE ASSIGNED FREQ AND WAS UNABLE TO GET A RESPONSE. HE DID CONTACT THAT ON 127.6 AND GAVE THEM LEVEL AT FL320 PASSED CHUTS. NO CONFLICTS THIS TIME, BETTER JUDGEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN TO QUESTION THAT DEPT ON THE FLT LEVEL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.