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Attributes | |
ACN | 292493 |
Time | |
Date | 199412 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : roc |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5900 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : roc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 6 |
ASRS Report | 292493 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft a was inbound landing airport descending to 6000 ft MSL. Aircraft B was departing same airport climbing to 5000 ft MSL. Both aircraft's flight paths were crossing. Aircraft B reported aircraft a in sight. Aircraft B was then issued a maintain visual separation clearance with aircraft a and to climb to 10000 ft MSL. Aircraft a was told about aircraft B's position (and traffic information) and pilot's intentions to climb and maintain visual separation. Aircraft B climbed right into other aircraft's flight path causing aircraft a to comply to a TCASII RA to climb and take evasive action. It was later stated by aircraft B in response to a question if he was maintaining visual separation with aircraft a 'I told you I would try to maintain visual separation.' if a pilot cannot comply with an ATC clearance, then the pilot should state so and ask for another clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT WHEN FLC'S RESPONSE TO VISUAL CLB SEPARATION WAS CONDITIONAL.
Narrative: ACFT A WAS INBOUND LNDG ARPT DSNDING TO 6000 FT MSL. ACFT B WAS DEPARTING SAME ARPT CLBING TO 5000 FT MSL. BOTH ACFT'S FLT PATHS WERE XING. ACFT B RPTED ACFT A IN SIGHT. ACFT B WAS THEN ISSUED A MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION CLRNC WITH ACFT A AND TO CLB TO 10000 FT MSL. ACFT A WAS TOLD ABOUT ACFT B'S POS (AND TFC INFO) AND PLT'S INTENTIONS TO CLB AND MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. ACFT B CLBED RIGHT INTO OTHER ACFT'S FLT PATH CAUSING ACFT A TO COMPLY TO A TCASII RA TO CLB AND TAKE EVASIVE ACTION. IT WAS LATER STATED BY ACFT B IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION IF HE WAS MAINTAINING VISUAL SEPARATION WITH ACFT A 'I TOLD YOU I WOULD TRY TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION.' IF A PLT CANNOT COMPLY WITH AN ATC CLRNC, THEN THE PLT SHOULD STATE SO AND ASK FOR ANOTHER CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.