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Attributes | |
ACN | 292699 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msv |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 210 Centurion / Turbo Centurion 210C, 210D |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 1180 flight time type : 2 |
ASRS Report | 292699 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was in the process of giving dual to the owner of a new T210 centurion (he requires 10 hours dual for insurance reasons). After doing some airwork we decided to land at sullivan county airport. We got the AWOS and entered the traffic pattern for a left downwind to runway 33. On approach to runway 33 we both saw a yellow vehicle on the runway and we initiated a go around. On the second circuit, the runway was clear and we landed. Upon disembarking the plane we were reprimanded by a gentleman who was working unicom that the airport was closed for snow removal. He asked us if we called FSS and whether they had given us the NOTAM that the airport was closed. We had gotten a WX briefing but not for sullivan county airport specifically, since we did not originally plan on landing there. When we questioned the unicom operator why he didn't answer our call on unicom, he said his hand-held battery was dead. This incident proved how important it is to get a 'specific' briefing and to land at the airports entailed in the briefing only!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LANDED AT A CLOSED ARPT.
Narrative: I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF GIVING DUAL TO THE OWNER OF A NEW T210 CENTURION (HE REQUIRES 10 HRS DUAL FOR INSURANCE REASONS). AFTER DOING SOME AIRWORK WE DECIDED TO LAND AT SULLIVAN COUNTY ARPT. WE GOT THE AWOS AND ENTERED THE TFC PATTERN FOR A L DOWNWIND TO RWY 33. ON APCH TO RWY 33 WE BOTH SAW A YELLOW VEHICLE ON THE RWY AND WE INITIATED A GAR. ON THE SECOND CIRCUIT, THE RWY WAS CLR AND WE LANDED. UPON DISEMBARKING THE PLANE WE WERE REPRIMANDED BY A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS WORKING UNICOM THAT THE ARPT WAS CLOSED FOR SNOW REMOVAL. HE ASKED US IF WE CALLED FSS AND WHETHER THEY HAD GIVEN US THE NOTAM THAT THE ARPT WAS CLOSED. WE HAD GOTTEN A WX BRIEFING BUT NOT FOR SULLIVAN COUNTY ARPT SPECIFICALLY, SINCE WE DID NOT ORIGINALLY PLAN ON LNDG THERE. WHEN WE QUESTIONED THE UNICOM OPERATOR WHY HE DIDN'T ANSWER OUR CALL ON UNICOM, HE SAID HIS HAND-HELD BATTERY WAS DEAD. THIS INCIDENT PROVED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET A 'SPECIFIC' BRIEFING AND TO LAND AT THE ARPTS ENTAILED IN THE BRIEFING ONLY!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.