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Attributes | |
ACN | 293180 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 235 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 260 |
ASRS Report | 293180 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At 15 NM northeast of lga, ATC said 'air carrier X, you're 5 mi from yoman, cleared ILS 22 to lga.' we were currently assigned 4000 ft and the first officer (flying) asked me if it was ok to descend to 3000 ft. Thinking that ATC had said cross yoman at 3000 ft, cleared the approach, I said yes. Passing 3500 ft, 2 mi from yoman, I realized ATC had not cleared us to 3000 ft and that we should not have let down without asking ATC on passing yoman. Nothing was said to us by ATC. No conflict arose and we crossed yoman at 3500 ft. I realized my error and hope this goes no further.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR MISGUIDED FO INTO BELIEVING HE WAS CLRED TO 3000 FT FROM 4000 FT.
Narrative: AT 15 NM NE OF LGA, ATC SAID 'ACR X, YOU'RE 5 MI FROM YOMAN, CLRED ILS 22 TO LGA.' WE WERE CURRENTLY ASSIGNED 4000 FT AND THE FO (FLYING) ASKED ME IF IT WAS OK TO DSND TO 3000 FT. THINKING THAT ATC HAD SAID CROSS YOMAN AT 3000 FT, CLRED THE APCH, I SAID YES. PASSING 3500 FT, 2 MI FROM YOMAN, I REALIZED ATC HAD NOT CLRED US TO 3000 FT AND THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE LET DOWN WITHOUT ASKING ATC ON PASSING YOMAN. NOTHING WAS SAID TO US BY ATC. NO CONFLICT AROSE AND WE CROSSED YOMAN AT 3500 FT. I REALIZED MY ERROR AND HOPE THIS GOES NO FURTHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.