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Attributes | |
ACN | 293450 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1309 |
ASRS Report | 293450 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
After landing in pit from sea, a preflight inspection revealed that very light rain was freezing upon contact with the cold soaked wing but not on the fuselage or ground and other equipment. I reported this to the captain and confirmed it upon a second check. The temperature was above freezing and the rain did not appear to be freezing in nature nor did the preflight ATIS report freezing rain or drizzle. The frozen water drops on the cold soaked wing did, however, give concern and we proceeded to the deice pad at which time 'type I' fluid was applied and the appropriate report given. After deicing, we proceeded directly to the runway without delay. During the entire process, any rain condition did not appear to be freezing in nature (and honestly I am in doubt as to whether it existed at all from deicing to takeoff). I have been advised, however, that the conditions were subsequently reported to be freezing and that 'type ii' fluid should have been applied. It is evident that I need a clrer understanding of the meaning of light freezing rain/drizzle.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT WAS DEICED WITH THE WRONG FLUID FOR THE TYPE OF WX CONDITION.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG IN PIT FROM SEA, A PREFLT INSPECTION REVEALED THAT VERY LIGHT RAIN WAS FREEZING UPON CONTACT WITH THE COLD SOAKED WING BUT NOT ON THE FUSELAGE OR GND AND OTHER EQUIP. I RPTED THIS TO THE CAPT AND CONFIRMED IT UPON A SECOND CHK. THE TEMP WAS ABOVE FREEZING AND THE RAIN DID NOT APPEAR TO BE FREEZING IN NATURE NOR DID THE PREFLT ATIS RPT FREEZING RAIN OR DRIZZLE. THE FROZEN WATER DROPS ON THE COLD SOAKED WING DID, HOWEVER, GIVE CONCERN AND WE PROCEEDED TO THE DEICE PAD AT WHICH TIME 'TYPE I' FLUID WAS APPLIED AND THE APPROPRIATE RPT GIVEN. AFTER DEICING, WE PROCEEDED DIRECTLY TO THE RWY WITHOUT DELAY. DURING THE ENTIRE PROCESS, ANY RAIN CONDITION DID NOT APPEAR TO BE FREEZING IN NATURE (AND HONESTLY I AM IN DOUBT AS TO WHETHER IT EXISTED AT ALL FROM DEICING TO TKOF). I HAVE BEEN ADVISED, HOWEVER, THAT THE CONDITIONS WERE SUBSEQUENTLY RPTED TO BE FREEZING AND THAT 'TYPE II' FLUID SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPLIED. IT IS EVIDENT THAT I NEED A CLRER UNDERSTANDING OF THE MEANING OF LIGHT FREEZING RAIN/DRIZZLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.