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Attributes | |
ACN | 295119 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pxr airport : phx |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 13800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zab |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7900 flight time type : 1900 |
ASRS Report | 295119 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
En route from dallas to phx, ZAB had our G-4 and a B-757, both en route to phx. We were approximately 4000 ft above the B-757 jet at the time we would normally begin descent. ZAB hi sector anticipated the situation well and sent the B-757 on direct routing toward the tonto intersection and started us both descending incrementally. When we had separation, we were given a notice to 'expect tonto at 12000 ft and a 280 KT speed restr.' the B-757 was given the 'expect...' notice as well, and we were both switched to the lower altitude sector controller, who cleared us both to cross tonto at 12000 ft. A third aircraft, a king air, was between ourselves and the B-757 at a lower altitude, descending to 11000 ft, per the STAR. I am certain we had 7-8 mi in-trail separation from the B-757, and since separation criteria were met, we were not told the type aircraft. It also appeared we were above the B-757 in our descent angle. We hit the wake turbulence at about 13800 ft, rolling the G-4 violently through approximately 60 degrees of bank. I immediately pulled up elevator and popped right out of the vortex, but was in no hurry to descend again. We crossed tonto intersection at about 14000 ft. I believe this was a fluke occurrence. Winds were not particularly strong out of the west. There is a topographic upslope in that area which might account for the vortex not settling as usual and the possibility that the B-757 may have had to shallow its descent angle to meet the 250 KT restr at tonto intersection, but enough to contribute to the vortex being at a higher altitude than anticipated. Believe me, I will give those guys all the room they need and take all factors into consideration for wake turbulence avoidance. Recommend b- 757 be classed formally as a 'heavy.' callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter participated in wake turbulence structured callback study. Reporter was hurried due to impending flight and only added that he believes more spacing is required between B-757 aircraft and they should be reclassified as a heavy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INFLT WAKE TURB ENCOUNTER.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM DALLAS TO PHX, ZAB HAD OUR G-4 AND A B-757, BOTH ENRTE TO PHX. WE WERE APPROX 4000 FT ABOVE THE B-757 JET AT THE TIME WE WOULD NORMALLY BEGIN DSCNT. ZAB HI SECTOR ANTICIPATED THE SIT WELL AND SENT THE B-757 ON DIRECT ROUTING TOWARD THE TONTO INTXN AND STARTED US BOTH DSNDING INCREMENTALLY. WHEN WE HAD SEPARATION, WE WERE GIVEN A NOTICE TO 'EXPECT TONTO AT 12000 FT AND A 280 KT SPD RESTR.' THE B-757 WAS GIVEN THE 'EXPECT...' NOTICE AS WELL, AND WE WERE BOTH SWITCHED TO THE LOWER ALT SECTOR CTLR, WHO CLRED US BOTH TO CROSS TONTO AT 12000 FT. A THIRD ACFT, A KING AIR, WAS BTWN OURSELVES AND THE B-757 AT A LOWER ALT, DSNDING TO 11000 FT, PER THE STAR. I AM CERTAIN WE HAD 7-8 MI IN-TRAIL SEPARATION FROM THE B-757, AND SINCE SEPARATION CRITERIA WERE MET, WE WERE NOT TOLD THE TYPE ACFT. IT ALSO APPEARED WE WERE ABOVE THE B-757 IN OUR DSCNT ANGLE. WE HIT THE WAKE TURB AT ABOUT 13800 FT, ROLLING THE G-4 VIOLENTLY THROUGH APPROX 60 DEGS OF BANK. I IMMEDIATELY PULLED UP ELEVATOR AND POPPED RIGHT OUT OF THE VORTEX, BUT WAS IN NO HURRY TO DSND AGAIN. WE CROSSED TONTO INTXN AT ABOUT 14000 FT. I BELIEVE THIS WAS A FLUKE OCCURRENCE. WINDS WERE NOT PARTICULARLY STRONG OUT OF THE W. THERE IS A TOPOGRAPHIC UPSLOPE IN THAT AREA WHICH MIGHT ACCOUNT FOR THE VORTEX NOT SETTLING AS USUAL AND THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE B-757 MAY HAVE HAD TO SHALLOW ITS DSCNT ANGLE TO MEET THE 250 KT RESTR AT TONTO INTXN, BUT ENOUGH TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE VORTEX BEING AT A HIGHER ALT THAN ANTICIPATED. BELIEVE ME, I WILL GIVE THOSE GUYS ALL THE ROOM THEY NEED AND TAKE ALL FACTORS INTO CONSIDERATION FOR WAKE TURB AVOIDANCE. RECOMMEND B- 757 BE CLASSED FORMALLY AS A 'HVY.' CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR PARTICIPATED IN WAKE TURB STRUCTURED CALLBACK STUDY. RPTR WAS HURRIED DUE TO IMPENDING FLT AND ONLY ADDED THAT HE BELIEVES MORE SPACING IS REQUIRED BTWN B-757 ACFT AND THEY SHOULD BE RECLASSIFIED AS A HVY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.