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Attributes | |
ACN | 296255 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lit |
State Reference | AR |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Mooney Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 296255 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 295607 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During a normal passenger pickup stop at adams field on jan/95, our gulfstream iv was parked by a lineman on the ramp at FBO. We picked up our passenger and fueled the aircraft to approximately 23000 pounds of fuel. (This resulted in the aircraft weighing 68000 pounds.) we started out on the second leg of an extended overseas trip with all system normal following the engine start sequenced. After receiving our clearance to gander, newfoundland, and taxi clearance, the PF, our chief pilot, applied power to start the aircraft movement. I assure you, he used the minimum power possible to start the aircraft moving and to execute the required right turn out of the parking space. At this point, I'd like to say in my more than 20 yrs of being around aircraft, I have never seen anyone more cautious and smooth in operation of any aircraft than our chief pilot! We taxied out with all indications normal and the remainder of the around-the-world flight was routine. Upon return to msy, our home base, I immediately had to catch a commercial flight to texas as my father was in the hospital. I had no idea of any of this until my return and obviously the 10 day deadline had passed. However, I feel so strongly about this situation, I feel the need to still submit the ASRS form. The chief pilot didn't find out of this incident until returning from the trip when he read it in an internal company memo. This type of situation could be prevented by not mixing light aircraft in the same ramp space as aircraft weighing 75000 pounds. There is a meeting scheduled next week at the FBO in which discussions will take place to prevent this from ever happening again (the FAA is sending a representative). The operator of the small mooney is alleging some damage to his paint was caused by trash blowing across the ramp due to our jet engine thrust. Again, it is my opinion, and that is what I get paid for, that the chief pilot (PF) used the absolute minimum power to move our aircraft -- no one could have done it any smoother!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POSSIBLE JET BLAST DAMAGE DURING TAXI.
Narrative: DURING A NORMAL PAX PICKUP STOP AT ADAMS FIELD ON JAN/95, OUR GULFSTREAM IV WAS PARKED BY A LINEMAN ON THE RAMP AT FBO. WE PICKED UP OUR PAX AND FUELED THE ACFT TO APPROX 23000 LBS OF FUEL. (THIS RESULTED IN THE ACFT WEIGHING 68000 LBS.) WE STARTED OUT ON THE SECOND LEG OF AN EXTENDED OVERSEAS TRIP WITH ALL SYS NORMAL FOLLOWING THE ENG START SEQUENCED. AFTER RECEIVING OUR CLRNC TO GANDER, NEWFOUNDLAND, AND TAXI CLRNC, THE PF, OUR CHIEF PLT, APPLIED PWR TO START THE ACFT MOVEMENT. I ASSURE YOU, HE USED THE MINIMUM PWR POSSIBLE TO START THE ACFT MOVING AND TO EXECUTE THE REQUIRED R TURN OUT OF THE PARKING SPACE. AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO SAY IN MY MORE THAN 20 YRS OF BEING AROUND ACFT, I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE MORE CAUTIOUS AND SMOOTH IN OP OF ANY ACFT THAN OUR CHIEF PLT! WE TAXIED OUT WITH ALL INDICATIONS NORMAL AND THE REMAINDER OF THE AROUND-THE-WORLD FLT WAS ROUTINE. UPON RETURN TO MSY, OUR HOME BASE, I IMMEDIATELY HAD TO CATCH A COMMERCIAL FLT TO TEXAS AS MY FATHER WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. I HAD NO IDEA OF ANY OF THIS UNTIL MY RETURN AND OBVIOUSLY THE 10 DAY DEADLINE HAD PASSED. HOWEVER, I FEEL SO STRONGLY ABOUT THIS SIT, I FEEL THE NEED TO STILL SUBMIT THE ASRS FORM. THE CHIEF PLT DIDN'T FIND OUT OF THIS INCIDENT UNTIL RETURNING FROM THE TRIP WHEN HE READ IT IN AN INTERNAL COMPANY MEMO. THIS TYPE OF SIT COULD BE PREVENTED BY NOT MIXING LIGHT ACFT IN THE SAME RAMP SPACE AS ACFT WEIGHING 75000 LBS. THERE IS A MEETING SCHEDULED NEXT WK AT THE FBO IN WHICH DISCUSSIONS WILL TAKE PLACE TO PREVENT THIS FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN (THE FAA IS SENDING A REPRESENTATIVE). THE OPERATOR OF THE SMALL MOONEY IS ALLEGING SOME DAMAGE TO HIS PAINT WAS CAUSED BY TRASH BLOWING ACROSS THE RAMP DUE TO OUR JET ENG THRUST. AGAIN, IT IS MY OPINION, AND THAT IS WHAT I GET PAID FOR, THAT THE CHIEF PLT (PF) USED THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM PWR TO MOVE OUR ACFT -- NO ONE COULD HAVE DONE IT ANY SMOOTHER!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.