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Attributes | |
ACN | 296687 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1200 msl bound upper : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 296687 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
In radar contact with ZZZ approach, arriving at ax hospital. Had been advised of opposite direction cessna traffic and cleared to 'descend and land at my own discretion.' at about 1200 ft I saw a hughes 300 helicopter immediately in front of and below me on a course about 20 degrees to the right of mine. I pulled up and right and saw him go by about 50 ft below and to my right. I estimate he was going 40-60 KTS and climbing. He was not in contact with approach at that time and we were just outside the class B airspace. I was not expecting traffic because of my radar contact and was more oriented to the traffic operating within the system. The medical crew was busy with the patient and could not have seen the hughes from their seats anyway. Obviously, the approach control radar is not a reliable system for this type of arrival.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN EMS HELI DSNDING TO LAND AND ANOTHER SMA HELI CLBING.
Narrative: IN RADAR CONTACT WITH ZZZ APCH, ARRIVING AT AX HOSPITAL. HAD BEEN ADVISED OF OPPOSITE DIRECTION CESSNA TFC AND CLRED TO 'DSND AND LAND AT MY OWN DISCRETION.' AT ABOUT 1200 FT I SAW A HUGHES 300 HELI IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF AND BELOW ME ON A COURSE ABOUT 20 DEGS TO THE R OF MINE. I PULLED UP AND R AND SAW HIM GO BY ABOUT 50 FT BELOW AND TO MY R. I ESTIMATE HE WAS GOING 40-60 KTS AND CLBING. HE WAS NOT IN CONTACT WITH APCH AT THAT TIME AND WE WERE JUST OUTSIDE THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. I WAS NOT EXPECTING TFC BECAUSE OF MY RADAR CONTACT AND WAS MORE ORIENTED TO THE TFC OPERATING WITHIN THE SYS. THE MEDICAL CREW WAS BUSY WITH THE PATIENT AND COULD NOT HAVE SEEN THE HUGHES FROM THEIR SEATS ANYWAY. OBVIOUSLY, THE APCH CTL RADAR IS NOT A RELIABLE SYS FOR THIS TYPE OF ARR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.