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Attributes | |
ACN | 297270 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cle |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 297270 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We were cruising at FL330 and ATC directed a descent to FL280. The captain changed the altitude window to FL280 and reprogrammed the FMS. As we passed FL290, ZOB directed a frequency change. I changed frequency and checked in with 'checking in, leveling FL280.' the new controller said 'the previous controller said he sent you to FL290 and that's where I need you.' I acknowledged and we climbed back up to FL290. The controller did not indicate that any traffic conflict had occurred. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter flies the md-88 for a major united states international air carrier. He states 'as far as I can tell, we did not make an error.' the incident happened on the exchange from one controller to another within ZOB. Both pilots were sure that they were assigned FL280 by the first controller. The second controller sounded inconvenienced but not angry. The captain's response to the notion that they were off altitude, within the cockpit, was 'bs!'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV.
Narrative: WE WERE CRUISING AT FL330 AND ATC DIRECTED A DSCNT TO FL280. THE CAPT CHANGED THE ALT WINDOW TO FL280 AND REPROGRAMMED THE FMS. AS WE PASSED FL290, ZOB DIRECTED A FREQ CHANGE. I CHANGED FREQ AND CHKED IN WITH 'CHKING IN, LEVELING FL280.' THE NEW CTLR SAID 'THE PREVIOUS CTLR SAID HE SENT YOU TO FL290 AND THAT'S WHERE I NEED YOU.' I ACKNOWLEDGED AND WE CLBED BACK UP TO FL290. THE CTLR DID NOT INDICATE THAT ANY TFC CONFLICT HAD OCCURRED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR FLIES THE MD-88 FOR A MAJOR UNITED STATES INTL ACR. HE STATES 'AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WE DID NOT MAKE AN ERROR.' THE INCIDENT HAPPENED ON THE EXCHANGE FROM ONE CTLR TO ANOTHER WITHIN ZOB. BOTH PLTS WERE SURE THAT THEY WERE ASSIGNED FL280 BY THE FIRST CTLR. THE SECOND CTLR SOUNDED INCONVENIENCED BUT NOT ANGRY. THE CAPT'S RESPONSE TO THE NOTION THAT THEY WERE OFF ALT, WITHIN THE COCKPIT, WAS 'BS!'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.