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Attributes | |
ACN | 297676 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 297676 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On takeoff captain who was flying felt flight controls were too stiff and not responsive. He decided to return to O'hare (ord). We leveled at 5000 ft and 250 KTS and told departure control. We were switched to approach control and was told to call our base and make arrangements. The aircraft was approximately 8-10 mi southeast to east of ord VOR. As I found and tuned the radio frequency I looked up at the instruments and noticed that we were at 4500 ft. I told the captain to climb to 5000 ft and he did. We were at 4500 ft for about 2 seconds. We landed uneventfully and did not declare an emergency. In retrospect we should have to protect us from control problems and associated altitude loss. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the report said the aircraft type was a 737-300. He sent the report in because of the 500 ft altitude excursion. He bemoaned in passing the phenomena of pilot's reluctance to declare an emergency. In this case he felt the captain was over reacting to stiffness in the controls. He did not feel the controls were stiff. But, the decision to return was not his call. The maintenance could find nothing wrong with the airplane.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT STRAYS OFF ASSIGNED ALT 500 FT.
Narrative: ON TKOF CAPT WHO WAS FLYING FELT FLT CTLS WERE TOO STIFF AND NOT RESPONSIVE. HE DECIDED TO RETURN TO O'HARE (ORD). WE LEVELED AT 5000 FT AND 250 KTS AND TOLD DEP CTL. WE WERE SWITCHED TO APCH CTL AND WAS TOLD TO CALL OUR BASE AND MAKE ARRANGEMENTS. THE ACFT WAS APPROX 8-10 MI SE TO E OF ORD VOR. AS I FOUND AND TUNED THE RADIO FREQ I LOOKED UP AT THE INSTS AND NOTICED THAT WE WERE AT 4500 FT. I TOLD THE CAPT TO CLB TO 5000 FT AND HE DID. WE WERE AT 4500 FT FOR ABOUT 2 SECONDS. WE LANDED UNEVENTFULLY AND DID NOT DECLARE AN EMER. IN RETROSPECT WE SHOULD HAVE TO PROTECT US FROM CTL PROBS AND ASSOCIATED ALT LOSS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPT SAID THE ACFT TYPE WAS A 737-300. HE SENT THE RPT IN BECAUSE OF THE 500 FT ALT EXCURSION. HE BEMOANED IN PASSING THE PHENOMENA OF PLT'S RELUCTANCE TO DECLARE AN EMER. IN THIS CASE HE FELT THE CAPT WAS OVER REACTING TO STIFFNESS IN THE CTLS. HE DID NOT FEEL THE CTLS WERE STIFF. BUT, THE DECISION TO RETURN WAS NOT HIS CALL. THE MAINT COULD FIND NOTHING WRONG WITH THE AIRPLANE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.