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Attributes | |
ACN | 298347 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sadf |
State Reference | FO |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sadf tower : hnl |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL603/603a |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 23 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 298347 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Narrative:
In sum: the owner threatened to fly the aircraft single pilot with his family. The reporter insisted on flying the aircraft from the left seat with the owner a very reluctant first officer. It was an uneventful flight. The reporter is glad to be out of this situation even though it cost him a lot of money. Again, the owner did not know anything about the notion of cockpit resource management or 'safety window' concept. Getting the owner to read the checklist for the reporter was a struggle. 'Owner is a good stick with a bad attitude.' the reporter still thinks the owner to be unqualified both as PIC and sic, even after 7 legs. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter is on call for a company that supplies temporary pilots for many corporations and individuals. He has about 2000 hours in various models of the 'challenger' cl 600 series aircraft. The aircraft on this trip was the cl 603A model owned by a foreign national. The aircraft flies with a us registry. The understanding that the reporter had when he accepted the job was that he was to be the copilot and the PIC. The reporter found out later that the owner/pilot was marginally qualified and not current either in the left or right seats. The owner formerly flew a lear. The reporter never knew what the owner would do next. The owner 'is a really good stick, but he flies as if he is the only aircraft in the sky.' the owner insisted on doing all of the communications in spanish in latin america leaving the reporter completely out of the loop as the reporter does not speak spanish. Both the reporter and the owner are about 55 yrs old. The reporter said that 'maybe I'm too straight,' but that he didn't want the owner to kill him. The reporter hopes that the owner will soon learn the proper way to operate the aircraft. 'Autocratic' describes the owner around the aircraft, 'charming' away from it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORTER EXPERIENCES DIFFICULTIES WITH FOREIGN BASED OWNER/PILOT OF CHALLENGER 603.
Narrative: IN SUM: THE OWNER THREATENED TO FLY THE ACFT SINGLE PLT WITH HIS FAMILY. THE RPTR INSISTED ON FLYING THE ACFT FROM THE L SEAT WITH THE OWNER A VERY RELUCTANT FO. IT WAS AN UNEVENTFUL FLT. THE RPTR IS GLAD TO BE OUT OF THIS SIT EVEN THOUGH IT COST HIM A LOT OF MONEY. AGAIN, THE OWNER DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE NOTION OF COCKPIT RESOURCE MGMNT OR 'SAFETY WINDOW' CONCEPT. GETTING THE OWNER TO READ THE CHKLIST FOR THE RPTR WAS A STRUGGLE. 'OWNER IS A GOOD STICK WITH A BAD ATTITUDE.' THE RPTR STILL THINKS THE OWNER TO BE UNQUALIFIED BOTH AS PIC AND SIC, EVEN AFTER 7 LEGS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR IS ON CALL FOR A COMPANY THAT SUPPLIES TEMPORARY PLTS FOR MANY CORPORATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS. HE HAS ABOUT 2000 HRS IN VARIOUS MODELS OF THE 'CHALLENGER' CL 600 SERIES ACFT. THE ACFT ON THIS TRIP WAS THE CL 603A MODEL OWNED BY A FOREIGN NATIONAL. THE ACFT FLIES WITH A US REGISTRY. THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RPTR HAD WHEN HE ACCEPTED THE JOB WAS THAT HE WAS TO BE THE COPLT AND THE PIC. THE RPTR FOUND OUT LATER THAT THE OWNER/PLT WAS MARGINALLY QUALIFIED AND NOT CURRENT EITHER IN THE L OR R SEATS. THE OWNER FORMERLY FLEW A LEAR. THE RPTR NEVER KNEW WHAT THE OWNER WOULD DO NEXT. THE OWNER 'IS A REALLY GOOD STICK, BUT HE FLIES AS IF HE IS THE ONLY ACFT IN THE SKY.' THE OWNER INSISTED ON DOING ALL OF THE COMS IN SPANISH IN LATIN AMERICA LEAVING THE RPTR COMPLETELY OUT OF THE LOOP AS THE RPTR DOES NOT SPEAK SPANISH. BOTH THE RPTR AND THE OWNER ARE ABOUT 55 YRS OLD. THE RPTR SAID THAT 'MAYBE I'M TOO STRAIGHT,' BUT THAT HE DIDN'T WANT THE OWNER TO KILL HIM. THE RPTR HOPES THAT THE OWNER WILL SOON LEARN THE PROPER WAY TO OPERATE THE ACFT. 'AUTOCRATIC' DESCRIBES THE OWNER AROUND THE ACFT, 'CHARMING' AWAY FROM IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.