Narrative:

On mar/tue/94 I was asked by my company's director of operations to fly as a first officer on a 1-ENG inoperative maintenance ferry flight from wmkp- wmkk. This flight was required to position the aircraft to a maintenance facility for #3 engine replacement. A few days earlier, engine #3 failed during a takeoff resulting in a low speed aborted takeoff. That specific crew was asked to operate this 1-ENG inoperative ferry flight. However, they declined due to lack of previous 1-ENG inoperative ferry training on the md-11. Another captain and myself were selected for the mission. The selected captain of this ferry flight was a senior line pilot who was previously an md-11 check captain. Note: at the present time, I am an md-11 line captain who was asked to fly as first officer on this particular ferry flight. With reference to our company flight training guide and md-11 fcom we have no approved training program for our md-11 crews. However, we were previously trained on dc-10 1-ENG inoperative ferry flts a few yrs ago. I informed the director of operations about the lack of training. I was informed that they would send a 32 page training program inclusive of performance charts and all the required data to perform this flight safely. Also, we would be briefed by our senior check captain familiar with md- 11 ferry operations and an oral review of performance data concerning this flight. I would like to note we were chosen by management to operate this flight on a voluntary basis only. The captain and myself discussed this in detail and we both volunteered to accept this flight. After reviewing the 32 page program and the conference briefing from the check captain we decided we had sufficient training and information to operate the flight. We operated the flight uneventfully on mar/wed/95 in accordance with all FARS and limitations imposed for this specific flight. In summary, I am not aware of any FAA regulations stating that crews must be trained to proficiency for such operations. Therefore, I am writing this report with concern regarding future action about the legality of 1-ENG inoperative ferry flts with crews who have not received an FAA approved training program on the md-11 aircraft. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter captain who performed as the first officer for the engine out ferry to the maintenance base clarified the location which was foreign and most of their operations are foreign. The ferry flight itself was only 30 mins and the reporter was completely comfortable with all aspects first officer the operation. The report was submitted for future reference for like sits when an engine out ferry flight is to be performed.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: 1 ENG OUT FERRY FLT TO MAINT BASE.

Narrative: ON MAR/TUE/94 I WAS ASKED BY MY COMPANY'S DIRECTOR OF OPS TO FLY AS A FO ON A 1-ENG INOP MAINT FERRY FLT FROM WMKP- WMKK. THIS FLT WAS REQUIRED TO POS THE ACFT TO A MAINT FACILITY FOR #3 ENG REPLACEMENT. A FEW DAYS EARLIER, ENG #3 FAILED DURING A TKOF RESULTING IN A LOW SPD ABORTED TKOF. THAT SPECIFIC CREW WAS ASKED TO OPERATE THIS 1-ENG INOP FERRY FLT. HOWEVER, THEY DECLINED DUE TO LACK OF PREVIOUS 1-ENG INOP FERRY TRAINING ON THE MD-11. ANOTHER CAPT AND MYSELF WERE SELECTED FOR THE MISSION. THE SELECTED CAPT OF THIS FERRY FLT WAS A SENIOR LINE PLT WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY AN MD-11 CHK CAPT. NOTE: AT THE PRESENT TIME, I AM AN MD-11 LINE CAPT WHO WAS ASKED TO FLY AS FO ON THIS PARTICULAR FERRY FLT. WITH REF TO OUR COMPANY FLT TRAINING GUIDE AND MD-11 FCOM WE HAVE NO APPROVED TRAINING PROGRAM FOR OUR MD-11 CREWS. HOWEVER, WE WERE PREVIOUSLY TRAINED ON DC-10 1-ENG INOP FERRY FLTS A FEW YRS AGO. I INFORMED THE DIRECTOR OF OPS ABOUT THE LACK OF TRAINING. I WAS INFORMED THAT THEY WOULD SEND A 32 PAGE TRAINING PROGRAM INCLUSIVE OF PERFORMANCE CHARTS AND ALL THE REQUIRED DATA TO PERFORM THIS FLT SAFELY. ALSO, WE WOULD BE BRIEFED BY OUR SENIOR CHK CAPT FAMILIAR WITH MD- 11 FERRY OPS AND AN ORAL REVIEW OF PERFORMANCE DATA CONCERNING THIS FLT. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE WE WERE CHOSEN BY MGMNT TO OPERATE THIS FLT ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS ONLY. THE CAPT AND MYSELF DISCUSSED THIS IN DETAIL AND WE BOTH VOLUNTEERED TO ACCEPT THIS FLT. AFTER REVIEWING THE 32 PAGE PROGRAM AND THE CONFERENCE BRIEFING FROM THE CHK CAPT WE DECIDED WE HAD SUFFICIENT TRAINING AND INFO TO OPERATE THE FLT. WE OPERATED THE FLT UNEVENTFULLY ON MAR/WED/95 IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL FARS AND LIMITATIONS IMPOSED FOR THIS SPECIFIC FLT. IN SUMMARY, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY FAA REGS STATING THAT CREWS MUST BE TRAINED TO PROFICIENCY FOR SUCH OPS. THEREFORE, I AM WRITING THIS RPT WITH CONCERN REGARDING FUTURE ACTION ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF 1-ENG INOP FERRY FLTS WITH CREWS WHO HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN FAA APPROVED TRAINING PROGRAM ON THE MD-11 ACFT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR CAPT WHO PERFORMED AS THE FO FOR THE ENG OUT FERRY TO THE MAINT BASE CLARIFIED THE LOCATION WHICH WAS FOREIGN AND MOST OF THEIR OPS ARE FOREIGN. THE FERRY FLT ITSELF WAS ONLY 30 MINS AND THE RPTR WAS COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH ALL ASPECTS FO THE OP. THE RPT WAS SUBMITTED FOR FUTURE REF FOR LIKE SITS WHEN AN ENG OUT FERRY FLT IS TO BE PERFORMED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.