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Attributes | |
ACN | 299444 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : flg |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1200 agl bound upper : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 31 flight time total : 440 flight time type : 280 |
ASRS Report | 299444 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were headed approximately northeast, in a shallow climb to perform maneuvers at an appropriate altitude. I asked my student to begin a climbing right turn toward the south, he raised his right wing to clear the area before his turn, and at that point we spotted a blue and white multi-engine aircraft off of our right tail. The aircraft was heading approximately northeast, yet on a collision heading with our aircraft. At that point, we rolled into a left bank to change our heading and the other aircraft rolled into a steep right bank, assumably, to avoid our plane. The twin-engine had been coming from behind us, outside of the visual range possible for the heading that we were maintaining. The aircraft came up, on us very quickly, so we would not have been able to spot it until it was practically right next to us, which is what happened. The pilot(south) of the twin-engine should have had us in visual range from several mi back, if the pilot had been scanning! It is unacceptable to me that the pilot(south) did not spot us until they were within 50 ft of us. Coming from behind us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AND INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID ANOTHER ACFT, THAT WAS ON A OVERTAKING COURSE.
Narrative: WE WERE HEADED APPROX NE, IN A SHALLOW CLB TO PERFORM MANEUVERS AT AN APPROPRIATE ALT. I ASKED MY STUDENT TO BEGIN A CLBING R TURN TOWARD THE S, HE RAISED HIS R WING TO CLR THE AREA BEFORE HIS TURN, AND AT THAT POINT WE SPOTTED A BLUE AND WHITE MULTI-ENG ACFT OFF OF OUR R TAIL. THE ACFT WAS HDG APPROX NE, YET ON A COLLISION HDG WITH OUR ACFT. AT THAT POINT, WE ROLLED INTO A L BANK TO CHANGE OUR HDG AND THE OTHER ACFT ROLLED INTO A STEEP R BANK, ASSUMABLY, TO AVOID OUR PLANE. THE TWIN-ENG HAD BEEN COMING FROM BEHIND US, OUTSIDE OF THE VISUAL RANGE POSSIBLE FOR THE HDG THAT WE WERE MAINTAINING. THE ACFT CAME UP, ON US VERY QUICKLY, SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPOT IT UNTIL IT WAS PRACTICALLY RIGHT NEXT TO US, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED. THE PLT(S) OF THE TWIN-ENG SHOULD HAVE HAD US IN VISUAL RANGE FROM SEVERAL MI BACK, IF THE PLT HAD BEEN SCANNING! IT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME THAT THE PLT(S) DID NOT SPOT US UNTIL THEY WERE WITHIN 50 FT OF US. COMING FROM BEHIND US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.