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Lack of crew rest facilities on flts over 8 hours when an extra pilot is on board for crew rest relief.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 300092 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199503 |
| Day | Mon |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : anc |
| State Reference | AK |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 120 |
| ASRS Report | 300092 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight scheduled over 8 hours (2 pilot crew) so relief first officer required. Company will not provide an adequate rest facility as required so forced to situation in a chair or lie on the floor to try and sleep. Very poor in this regard. But, even after numerous requests to cease, company persists in scheduling deadheads/jumpseats on these flts - any possible rest is now disturbed by slamming doors, lights, oven timers, etc. So required rest is non existent. As requested and explained, on flts required an relief first officer and crew rest, there must be no deadheads or jumpseaters scheduled. At this point in time, there are only 3 such flts involved and a simple matter not to allow extra people aboard. This is a safety issue since it prohibits required crew rest. If the company would provide a true rest facility then this problem wouldn't arise.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LACK OF CREW REST FACILITIES ON FLTS OVER 8 HRS WHEN AN EXTRA PLT IS ON BOARD FOR CREW REST RELIEF.
Narrative: FLT SCHEDULED OVER 8 HRS (2 PLT CREW) SO RELIEF FO REQUIRED. COMPANY WILL NOT PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE REST FACILITY AS REQUIRED SO FORCED TO SIT IN A CHAIR OR LIE ON THE FLOOR TO TRY AND SLEEP. VERY POOR IN THIS REGARD. BUT, EVEN AFTER NUMEROUS REQUESTS TO CEASE, COMPANY PERSISTS IN SCHEDULING DEADHEADS/JUMPSEATS ON THESE FLTS - ANY POSSIBLE REST IS NOW DISTURBED BY SLAMMING DOORS, LIGHTS, OVEN TIMERS, ETC. SO REQUIRED REST IS NON EXISTENT. AS REQUESTED AND EXPLAINED, ON FLTS REQUIRED AN RELIEF FO AND CREW REST, THERE MUST BE NO DEADHEADS OR JUMPSEATERS SCHEDULED. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE ARE ONLY 3 SUCH FLTS INVOLVED AND A SIMPLE MATTER NOT TO ALLOW EXTRA PEOPLE ABOARD. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE SINCE IT PROHIBITS REQUIRED CREW REST. IF THE COMPANY WOULD PROVIDE A TRUE REST FACILITY THEN THIS PROB WOULDN'T ARISE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.