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Attributes | |
ACN | 300093 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 21000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8800 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 300093 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight X from orl to atl approximately 20 DME south of husky intersection on sierra arrival proceeding direct to husky at 310 KTS controller cleared us to cross husky at 14000 ft. We started down but realized that we could not make crossing restr. The frequency was very congested, and by the time we were able to tell the controller that we couldn't make the restr we were at 21500 ft. Controller then instructed us to turn to a 90 degree heading with no further instruction on altitude. When we asked what altitude he wanted, he said FL230. Since we were already at FL215 we told him we would level off at FL210. The frequency at the time was very congested, and it sounded as though the controller was reaching the point of overload. A previous aircraft (possibly Y) had a miscom with the controller which resulted in a similar altitude confusion. After our turn to 90 degrees, and level at FL210, the controller started to clear an aircraft overhead us at FL220 down to FL210, but corrected his mistake immediately. WX in the area was a contributing factor. Due to the large number of arrs, and deteriorating WX conditions, the controller appeared to be reaching the point of overload.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC CTLR OVERLOAD. TFC SEPARATION.
Narrative: FLT X FROM ORL TO ATL APPROX 20 DME S OF HUSKY INTXN ON SIERRA ARR PROCEEDING DIRECT TO HUSKY AT 310 KTS CTLR CLRED US TO CROSS HUSKY AT 14000 FT. WE STARTED DOWN BUT REALIZED THAT WE COULD NOT MAKE XING RESTR. THE FREQ WAS VERY CONGESTED, AND BY THE TIME WE WERE ABLE TO TELL THE CTLR THAT WE COULDN'T MAKE THE RESTR WE WERE AT 21500 FT. CTLR THEN INSTRUCTED US TO TURN TO A 90 DEG HDG WITH NO FURTHER INSTRUCTION ON ALT. WHEN WE ASKED WHAT ALT HE WANTED, HE SAID FL230. SINCE WE WERE ALREADY AT FL215 WE TOLD HIM WE WOULD LEVEL OFF AT FL210. THE FREQ AT THE TIME WAS VERY CONGESTED, AND IT SOUNDED AS THOUGH THE CTLR WAS REACHING THE POINT OF OVERLOAD. A PREVIOUS ACFT (POSSIBLY Y) HAD A MISCOM WITH THE CTLR WHICH RESULTED IN A SIMILAR ALT CONFUSION. AFTER OUR TURN TO 90 DEGS, AND LEVEL AT FL210, THE CTLR STARTED TO CLR AN ACFT OVERHEAD US AT FL220 DOWN TO FL210, BUT CORRECTED HIS MISTAKE IMMEDIATELY. WX IN THE AREA WAS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. DUE TO THE LARGE NUMBER OF ARRS, AND DETERIORATING WX CONDITIONS, THE CTLR APPEARED TO BE REACHING THE POINT OF OVERLOAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.