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Attributes | |
ACN | 300548 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : rmg |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute airway : b4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 300548 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After departing mxp on a banko departure, after FL100 (T altitude 6000 ft) I began my flight engineer departure duties and was not actively monitoring the flight path of the aircraft until I noticed a discussion between the pilots about being unable to contact ATC (on a new frequency) due to frequency congestion to obtain a higher altitude. We had just crossed ometo intersection (42 DME srn VOR 278 degree radial) at FL120. We continued on course into the mountainous terrain 6000 ft below the minimum crossing altitude of FL180. We were on an IFR flight plan in VMC conditions. We were 14 mi (56 DME) west of ometo intersection before we received an urgent clearance from ATC to climb to FL260. ATC was upset at our altitude and location and repeatedly requested our flying conditions (VMC). We were flying through valleys into rising terrain and with terrain above the aircraft to our right (5 mi?) during our subsequent climb to FL260, I examined the pilot's banko departure page and then realized how low we really were on the departure profile. A 'new hire' captain was flying left seat on his IOE. A check captain was flying in the right seat working the radios. No comments were made by either pilot as to why we proceeded west of ometo intersection so far below the minimum crossing altitude on the departure profile.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT IN A DEP PROC IN FOREIGN AIRSPACE. ALT XING RESTR NOT MET IN CLB.
Narrative: AFTER DEPARTING MXP ON A BANKO DEP, AFTER FL100 (T ALT 6000 FT) I BEGAN MY FE DEP DUTIES AND WAS NOT ACTIVELY MONITORING THE FLT PATH OF THE ACFT UNTIL I NOTICED A DISCUSSION BTWN THE PLTS ABOUT BEING UNABLE TO CONTACT ATC (ON A NEW FREQ) DUE TO FREQ CONGESTION TO OBTAIN A HIGHER ALT. WE HAD JUST CROSSED OMETO INTXN (42 DME SRN VOR 278 DEG RADIAL) AT FL120. WE CONTINUED ON COURSE INTO THE MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN 6000 FT BELOW THE MINIMUM XING ALT OF FL180. WE WERE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN IN VMC CONDITIONS. WE WERE 14 MI (56 DME) W OF OMETO INTXN BEFORE WE RECEIVED AN URGENT CLRNC FROM ATC TO CLB TO FL260. ATC WAS UPSET AT OUR ALT AND LOCATION AND REPEATEDLY REQUESTED OUR FLYING CONDITIONS (VMC). WE WERE FLYING THROUGH VALLEYS INTO RISING TERRAIN AND WITH TERRAIN ABOVE THE ACFT TO OUR R (5 MI?) DURING OUR SUBSEQUENT CLB TO FL260, I EXAMINED THE PLT'S BANKO DEP PAGE AND THEN REALIZED HOW LOW WE REALLY WERE ON THE DEP PROFILE. A 'NEW HIRE' CAPT WAS FLYING L SEAT ON HIS IOE. A CHK CAPT WAS FLYING IN THE R SEAT WORKING THE RADIOS. NO COMMENTS WERE MADE BY EITHER PLT AS TO WHY WE PROCEEDED W OF OMETO INTXN SO FAR BELOW THE MINIMUM XING ALT ON THE DEP PROFILE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.