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A heavy jet overshot the localizer while parallel approachs were in progress, causing the reporter's aircraft to take evasive action.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 300720 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199503 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mia |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 300720 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 5000 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
While being vectored for approach to runway 9L at mia ATC also vectored a heavy jet within close proximity to our aircraft requiring us to make a hasty deviation from our cleared flight path to avoid a collision. We were on a steady heading at our assigned altitude and were monitoring the other traffic on our TCASII. The heavy jet required more room for his turn than ATC had planned. The problem is mia ATC or the procedures they use. This has happened before to myself and other pilot with our company numerous times at mia but never as close to a midair. Mia ATC is dangerous. The accounts are too numerous to mention. They confuse call signs regularly, misdirect traffic, constantly want you to call traffic visually so they can pass the responsibility to the flight crew and consistently do not follow spacing requirements behind heavy jets. Everyone makes mistakes and controllers are a fine bunch of guys but for some reason there are more mistakes at mia than most airports. I don't know what the answer is but I would bet it would be with the procedures ATC must follow in the mia area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A HVY JET OVERSHOT THE LOC WHILE PARALLEL APCHS WERE IN PROGRESS, CAUSING THE RPTR'S ACFT TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR APCH TO RWY 9L AT MIA ATC ALSO VECTORED A HVY JET WITHIN CLOSE PROX TO OUR ACFT REQUIRING US TO MAKE A HASTY DEV FROM OUR CLRED FLT PATH TO AVOID A COLLISION. WE WERE ON A STEADY HDG AT OUR ASSIGNED ALT AND WERE MONITORING THE OTHER TFC ON OUR TCASII. THE HVY JET REQUIRED MORE ROOM FOR HIS TURN THAN ATC HAD PLANNED. THE PROB IS MIA ATC OR THE PROCS THEY USE. THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE TO MYSELF AND OTHER PLT WITH OUR COMPANY NUMEROUS TIMES AT MIA BUT NEVER AS CLOSE TO A MIDAIR. MIA ATC IS DANGEROUS. THE ACCOUNTS ARE TOO NUMEROUS TO MENTION. THEY CONFUSE CALL SIGNS REGULARLY, MISDIRECT TFC, CONSTANTLY WANT YOU TO CALL TFC VISUALLY SO THEY CAN PASS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE FLC AND CONSISTENTLY DO NOT FOLLOW SPACING REQUIREMENTS BEHIND HVY JETS. EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES AND CTLRS ARE A FINE BUNCH OF GUYS BUT FOR SOME REASON THERE ARE MORE MISTAKES AT MIA THAN MOST ARPTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS BUT I WOULD BET IT WOULD BE WITH THE PROCS ATC MUST FOLLOW IN THE MIA AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.