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Attributes | |
ACN | 301000 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zzz |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz tower : mob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 301000 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was the PNF working the radio on let down. The captain was flying on the same old route he had been on for yrs. He wanted to land to the east straight-in, but traffic necessitated a pattern around to land to the west. While he was arguing with approach and also flying, we were getting close to a previously assigned crossing restr. I interjected, 'if you're going to argue, you had best not give him any ammunition -- are we going to make this crossing?' response, 'of course speed brakes.' just made it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NONE - THE FO REMINDED THE CAPT THAT THEY WERE APCHING THEIR XING RESTR AND THE CAPT USED THE SPD BRAKES AND MADE THE RESTR.
Narrative: I WAS THE PNF WORKING THE RADIO ON LET DOWN. THE CAPT WAS FLYING ON THE SAME OLD RTE HE HAD BEEN ON FOR YRS. HE WANTED TO LAND TO THE E STRAIGHT-IN, BUT TFC NECESSITATED A PATTERN AROUND TO LAND TO THE W. WHILE HE WAS ARGUING WITH APCH AND ALSO FLYING, WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO A PREVIOUSLY ASSIGNED XING RESTR. I INTERJECTED, 'IF YOU'RE GOING TO ARGUE, YOU HAD BEST NOT GIVE HIM ANY AMMUNITION -- ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THIS XING?' RESPONSE, 'OF COURSE SPD BRAKES.' JUST MADE IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.