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Air carrier flight crew report on lack of flight crew briefing and cockpit coordination during flight crew technique preflight procedure. Flew wrong departure SID.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 301280 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199504 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 5100 flight time type : 170 |
| ASRS Report | 301280 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 301364 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Received ATC clearance via ACARS. Did not brief name of SID and due to similarities in loop 9 versus LAXX2 SID initial departure procedures, both crew members incorrectly assumed we were cleared on the most often flown departure, the LAXX2 SID. We realized our error when ATC cleared us '080 degree heading, direct lax VOR, resume loop 9 departure.' we verified paper work and advised controller we were supposed to be on loop 9. No conflict with other aircraft occurred. In future, will ensure the name of SID and initial departure procedure is part of before takeoff briefing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLC RPT ON LACK OF FLC BRIEFING AND COCKPIT COORD DURING FLC TECHNIQUE PREFLT PROC. FLEW WRONG DEP SID.
Narrative: RECEIVED ATC CLRNC VIA ACARS. DID NOT BRIEF NAME OF SID AND DUE TO SIMILARITIES IN LOOP 9 VERSUS LAXX2 SID INITIAL DEP PROCS, BOTH CREW MEMBERS INCORRECTLY ASSUMED WE WERE CLRED ON THE MOST OFTEN FLOWN DEP, THE LAXX2 SID. WE REALIZED OUR ERROR WHEN ATC CLRED US '080 DEG HDG, DIRECT LAX VOR, RESUME LOOP 9 DEP.' WE VERIFIED PAPER WORK AND ADVISED CTLR WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON LOOP 9. NO CONFLICT WITH OTHER ACFT OCCURRED. IN FUTURE, WILL ENSURE THE NAME OF SID AND INITIAL DEP PROC IS PART OF BEFORE TKOF BRIEFING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.