Unauthorized uncoord penetration of MOA.

Attributes
ACN	301374
Time
Date	199504
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : csg
State Reference	GA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : csg tower : csg artcc : zbw
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 10
ASRS Report	301374
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited penetrated airspace other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Deviation Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Approached benning MOA/right-3002 def from the east flying west, destination auo. Called approach 126.0 (wrong frequency on sectional). No answer (25 mi east of csg). Called csg 25 mi from the east on 120.1, advised position, aircraft number, intentions of transitioning the airspace over the top of csg at 2500 ft for landing auo, and asked 'are we cleared through the restr airspace.' controller and controling agency of both MOA and R-3002 said 'cleared through restr airspace, resume own navigation.' approximately 30 seconds later, controller says contact approach on 125.55/50. I contacted approach and the controller states, 'you are in restr airspace, turn, suggested heading of 090 degrees or you will get shot.' I explained clearance from controling agency csg. He later switched me to another frequency and stated 'I don't think csg gave you clearance in a 'rude' voice. I contacted the next approach controller where he said 'we would like to clarify this problem.' I once again explained entire situation. Standard briefing was obtained prior to filing VFR flight plan from crg-auo. No mention of approach frequency for csg changing.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: UNAUTH UNCOORD PENETRATION OF MOA.

Narrative: APCHED BENNING MOA/R-3002 DEF FROM THE E FLYING W, DEST AUO. CALLED APCH 126.0 (WRONG FREQ ON SECTIONAL). NO ANSWER (25 MI E OF CSG). CALLED CSG 25 MI FROM THE E ON 120.1, ADVISED POS, ACFT NUMBER, INTENTIONS OF TRANSITIONING THE AIRSPACE OVER THE TOP OF CSG AT 2500 FT FOR LNDG AUO, AND ASKED 'ARE WE CLRED THROUGH THE RESTR AIRSPACE.' CTLR AND CTLING AGENCY OF BOTH MOA AND R-3002 SAID 'CLRED THROUGH RESTR AIRSPACE, RESUME OWN NAV.' APPROX 30 SECONDS LATER, CTLR SAYS CONTACT APCH ON 125.55/50. I CONTACTED APCH AND THE CTLR STATES, 'YOU ARE IN RESTR AIRSPACE, TURN, SUGGESTED HDG OF 090 DEGS OR YOU WILL GET SHOT.' I EXPLAINED CLRNC FROM CTLING AGENCY CSG. HE LATER SWITCHED ME TO ANOTHER FREQ AND STATED 'I DON'T THINK CSG GAVE YOU CLRNC IN A 'RUDE' VOICE. I CONTACTED THE NEXT APCH CTLR WHERE HE SAID 'WE WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THIS PROB.' I ONCE AGAIN EXPLAINED ENTIRE SIT. STANDARD BRIEFING WAS OBTAINED PRIOR TO FILING VFR FLT PLAN FROM CRG-AUO. NO MENTION OF APCH FREQ FOR CSG CHANGING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.