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Attributes | |
ACN | 301667 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : psb airport : mdt |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 25000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny artcc : zse |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other other other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 12300 flight time type : 2450 |
ASRS Report | 301667 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : declared emergency |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
While at 25000 ft the advisory display panel indicated an elevator trim problem. I attempted the use of the standby elevator trim, to no avail. Autoplt usage provided some descent, but erratic. Declared an emergency and diverted to mdt. Upon reaching approximately 3000 ft (with an ambient temperature of plus 1 degree C) the elevator trim 'unfroze' and a normal landing was accomplished. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the dhc-8 has elevator trim tabs that not only are used for trimming the elevator position, but are used to move the elevator (commonly referred to as 'flying tabs'). The 2 outboard are for trim setting and the 2 inboard are for moving the elevator. There is also an 'off arm' trim switch for alternate trim control on the pilot's pedestal for the purpose of disconnecting the trim servo for manual control operation. This was attempted but did not help relieve the stuck trim or elevator movement. The autoplt on was the only action giving minor results. He stated that he finally declared an emergency after ATC complained about his slow descent. He restated the fact that when he descended to a lower altitude wherein the temperature was up to 1 degree C, the trim started working normally. The reporter further stated that the NTSB and FAA investigated this incident and found that water drained out of the elevator trim tab area after the aircraft was put into a hangar following this incident. The FAA also is trying to get the manufacturer to provide a modification to the older aircraft, such as this one, that is currently being installed on the new aircraft to prevent this problem. They have asked the reporter for his statement to help bring this about through either the manufacturer's voluntary effort or through a mandatory airworthiness directive by the FAA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MDT LOST ELEVATOR CTL OF ACFT DURING CRUISE AND DECLARED AN EMER AND DIVERTED TO A NEAR BY ARPT.
Narrative: WHILE AT 25000 FT THE ADVISORY DISPLAY PANEL INDICATED AN ELEVATOR TRIM PROB. I ATTEMPTED THE USE OF THE STANDBY ELEVATOR TRIM, TO NO AVAIL. AUTOPLT USAGE PROVIDED SOME DSCNT, BUT ERRATIC. DECLARED AN EMER AND DIVERTED TO MDT. UPON REACHING APPROX 3000 FT (WITH AN AMBIENT TEMP OF PLUS 1 DEG C) THE ELEVATOR TRIM 'UNFROZE' AND A NORMAL LNDG WAS ACCOMPLISHED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE DHC-8 HAS ELEVATOR TRIM TABS THAT NOT ONLY ARE USED FOR TRIMMING THE ELEVATOR POS, BUT ARE USED TO MOVE THE ELEVATOR (COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS 'FLYING TABS'). THE 2 OUTBOARD ARE FOR TRIM SETTING AND THE 2 INBOARD ARE FOR MOVING THE ELEVATOR. THERE IS ALSO AN 'OFF ARM' TRIM SWITCH FOR ALTERNATE TRIM CTL ON THE PLT'S PEDESTAL FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCONNECTING THE TRIM SERVO FOR MANUAL CTL OP. THIS WAS ATTEMPTED BUT DID NOT HELP RELIEVE THE STUCK TRIM OR ELEVATOR MOVEMENT. THE AUTOPLT ON WAS THE ONLY ACTION GIVING MINOR RESULTS. HE STATED THAT HE FINALLY DECLARED AN EMER AFTER ATC COMPLAINED ABOUT HIS SLOW DSCNT. HE RESTATED THE FACT THAT WHEN HE DSNDED TO A LOWER ALT WHEREIN THE TEMP WAS UP TO 1 DEG C, THE TRIM STARTED WORKING NORMALLY. THE RPTR FURTHER STATED THAT THE NTSB AND FAA INVESTIGATED THIS INCIDENT AND FOUND THAT WATER DRAINED OUT OF THE ELEVATOR TRIM TAB AREA AFTER THE ACFT WAS PUT INTO A HANGAR FOLLOWING THIS INCIDENT. THE FAA ALSO IS TRYING TO GET THE MANUFACTURER TO PROVIDE A MODIFICATION TO THE OLDER ACFT, SUCH AS THIS ONE, THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING INSTALLED ON THE NEW ACFT TO PREVENT THIS PROB. THEY HAVE ASKED THE RPTR FOR HIS STATEMENT TO HELP BRING THIS ABOUT THROUGH EITHER THE MANUFACTURER'S VOLUNTARY EFFORT OR THROUGH A MANDATORY AIRWORTHINESS DIRECTIVE BY THE FAA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.