37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 302583 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dro |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 2750 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 302583 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the first officer on a flight out of durango, co. The conditions were good VFR and the captain and I felt we could depart on a VFR climb out of durango and provide our own terrain separation. Due to some extra time on the ground in dro, the captain picked up an IFR clearance to montrose, co, while we were still on the ground. I didn't listen to the clearance, but assumed he had requested and been cleared for the VFR climb. While climbing out the captain instructed me to make the climbing left turn on course. Later after the controller at ZDV inquired about our position and altitude. I realized we hadn't been cleared for a VFR climb. We were required to follow the departure procedure out of dro. Conditions were good VFR and safety was never compromised.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DOES NOT COMPLY WITH PUBLISHED IFR DEP PROC.
Narrative: I WAS THE FO ON A FLT OUT OF DURANGO, CO. THE CONDITIONS WERE GOOD VFR AND THE CAPT AND I FELT WE COULD DEPART ON A VFR CLB OUT OF DURANGO AND PROVIDE OUR OWN TERRAIN SEPARATION. DUE TO SOME EXTRA TIME ON THE GND IN DRO, THE CAPT PICKED UP AN IFR CLRNC TO MONTROSE, CO, WHILE WE WERE STILL ON THE GND. I DIDN'T LISTEN TO THE CLRNC, BUT ASSUMED HE HAD REQUESTED AND BEEN CLRED FOR THE VFR CLB. WHILE CLBING OUT THE CAPT INSTRUCTED ME TO MAKE THE CLBING L TURN ON COURSE. LATER AFTER THE CTLR AT ZDV INQUIRED ABOUT OUR POS AND ALT. I REALIZED WE HADN'T BEEN CLRED FOR A VFR CLB. WE WERE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE DEP PROC OUT OF DRO. CONDITIONS WERE GOOD VFR AND SAFETY WAS NEVER COMPROMISED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.