Heading track deviation around thunderstorm activity. Reporter complaint of lack of ARTCC radar cont...

Attributes
ACN	303767
Time
Date	199505
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : ocs
State Reference	WY
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zdv
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Super 80
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	cruise other other
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Military
Operating Under FAR Part	other : other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	303767
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	303657
Events
Anomaly	inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : declared emergency other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Weather
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

In sum: approximately 150 NM east southeast of ocs, in ZDV airspace (133.17), we approached embedded thunderstorm. Captain requested deviation to the right. ZDV did not respond after 2 or 3 attempts to contact. At 20 mi range from thunderstorm, captain instructed me to turn right. Deviation was minor, about 35 degrees for 1 1/2 mins. ZDV was informed, but still did not respond. As we turned back to PDT per original clearance, ZDV was again informed, this time responding with disapproval of our deviation without center's consent. Captain stated that he exercised his emergency authority/authorized to effect the deviation. Supplemental information from acn 303657: icing and moderate turbulence was encountered. I informed the controller as we made our turn back toward the PDT VORTAC. The controller then started to make a big deal of the fact that I deviated without her consent. A few subsequent radio xmissions ensued between the controller and myself. Will be on tape would the controller care to continue to make a big deal of this matter. The TCASII was monitored throughout, no encounters were present. However, the controller did make mention of military aircraft climbing to FL310.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: HDG TRACK DEV AROUND TSTM ACTIVITY. RPTR COMPLAINT OF LACK OF ARTCC RADAR CTLR COORD COM DURING EVENT.

Narrative: IN SUM: APPROX 150 NM E SE OF OCS, IN ZDV AIRSPACE (133.17), WE APCHED EMBEDDED TSTM. CAPT REQUESTED DEV TO THE R. ZDV DID NOT RESPOND AFTER 2 OR 3 ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT. AT 20 MI RANGE FROM TSTM, CAPT INSTRUCTED ME TO TURN R. DEV WAS MINOR, ABOUT 35 DEGS FOR 1 1/2 MINS. ZDV WAS INFORMED, BUT STILL DID NOT RESPOND. AS WE TURNED BACK TO PDT PER ORIGINAL CLRNC, ZDV WAS AGAIN INFORMED, THIS TIME RESPONDING WITH DISAPPROVAL OF OUR DEV WITHOUT CTR'S CONSENT. CAPT STATED THAT HE EXERCISED HIS EMER AUTH TO EFFECT THE DEV. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 303657: ICING AND MODERATE TURB WAS ENCOUNTERED. I INFORMED THE CTLR AS WE MADE OUR TURN BACK TOWARD THE PDT VORTAC. THE CTLR THEN STARTED TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OF THE FACT THAT I DEVIATED WITHOUT HER CONSENT. A FEW SUBSEQUENT RADIO XMISSIONS ENSUED BTWN THE CTLR AND MYSELF. WILL BE ON TAPE WOULD THE CTLR CARE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OF THIS MATTER. THE TCASII WAS MONITORED THROUGHOUT, NO ENCOUNTERS WERE PRESENT. HOWEVER, THE CTLR DID MAKE MENTION OF MIL ACFT CLBING TO FL310.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Heading track deviation around thunderstorm activity. Reporter complaint of lack of ARTCC radar controller coordination communication during event.