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Attributes | |
ACN | 303835 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 5400 |
ASRS Report | 303835 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We landed with less fuel than we should have or could have. The problem arose when we were forced to stay at FL330 for a pacific ocean crossing. Contributing factors were: 1) too many airplanes on the same route at the same time. 2) other airliners not climbing. 3) no team approach. We could have and should have changed rtes, to get a higher altitude. We could have and should have advised our company dispatch. We could have and should have advised ATC. We should have used the term 'minimum fuel, emergency fuel.' we could have gone to our alternate en route. I was concerned, the captain knew I was. I prompted him several times to tell ATC of our problem (while I was flying). He was reluctant. The so said nothing. Afterwards, the captain and so didn't think it was a problem (when flight was completed).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO QUESTIONS PROC REGARDING FUEL REMAINING WHEN LNDG.
Narrative: WE LANDED WITH LESS FUEL THAN WE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE. THE PROB AROSE WHEN WE WERE FORCED TO STAY AT FL330 FOR A PACIFIC OCEAN XING. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE: 1) TOO MANY AIRPLANES ON THE SAME RTE AT THE SAME TIME. 2) OTHER AIRLINERS NOT CLBING. 3) NO TEAM APCH. WE COULD HAVE AND SHOULD HAVE CHANGED RTES, TO GET A HIGHER ALT. WE COULD HAVE AND SHOULD HAVE ADVISED OUR COMPANY DISPATCH. WE COULD HAVE AND SHOULD HAVE ADVISED ATC. WE SHOULD HAVE USED THE TERM 'MINIMUM FUEL, EMER FUEL.' WE COULD HAVE GONE TO OUR ALTERNATE ENRTE. I WAS CONCERNED, THE CAPT KNEW I WAS. I PROMPTED HIM SEVERAL TIMES TO TELL ATC OF OUR PROB (WHILE I WAS FLYING). HE WAS RELUCTANT. THE SO SAID NOTHING. AFTERWARDS, THE CAPT AND SO DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A PROB (WHEN FLT WAS COMPLETED).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.