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Attributes | |
ACN | 303920 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 182 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 210 |
ASRS Report | 303920 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were in our initial climb out phase from den en route to slc. The captain was at the controls and we had just taken off on runway 34 at den. Passing 9000 ft we were told of converging traffic at 2 mi and 12 O'clock. I made our standard 1000 ft prior to leveloff call (passing 9000 ft for 10000 ft) and we just broke out of the first cloud layer. I called our traffic at 12 O'clock, 1 mi, 2000 ft above us. At this time we were told of a second conflicting aircraft at 12 O'clock, 3 mi, and given a heading of 260 degrees. We started the turn without sight of the second aircraft, but we did have a target on TCASII. At this time I was back in the cockpit and saw we were passing through 9800 ft at approximately 2500 FPM climb. I immediately called out '10000 ft' to alert the captain but to my chagrin we have a standard 10000 ft call in which external lights are turned off and the bell is chimed to inform the cabin crew of the end of our sterile cockpit procedures. So as I called out '10000 ft' as our altitude warning, the captain started to perform his duties. I immediately called out 'altitude' at which time the captain performed an altitude recovery procedure as den departure told us to return to 10000 ft. The captain made his recovery between 10400-10500 ft and quickly returned the aircraft to 10000 ft. Corrective action: either allow the PNF to perform all the checks at 10000 ft or make it a checklist item that the PF would have to initiate, thereby omitting any confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B-737 FLC CLBED THROUGH CLRNC ALT OF 10000 FT DURING DEP. THE CALLOUTS WERE GIVEN BY THE FO, BUT THE CAPT MISTOOK THE FO'S 10000 FT CALL FOR THE PROCEDURAL 10000 FT CALL, AND CONTINUED TO CLB WHILE FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH 10000 FT PROCEDURAL CHKS.
Narrative: WE WERE IN OUR INITIAL CLBOUT PHASE FROM DEN ENRTE TO SLC. THE CAPT WAS AT THE CTLS AND WE HAD JUST TAKEN OFF ON RWY 34 AT DEN. PASSING 9000 FT WE WERE TOLD OF CONVERGING TFC AT 2 MI AND 12 O'CLOCK. I MADE OUR STANDARD 1000 FT PRIOR TO LEVELOFF CALL (PASSING 9000 FT FOR 10000 FT) AND WE JUST BROKE OUT OF THE FIRST CLOUD LAYER. I CALLED OUR TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK, 1 MI, 2000 FT ABOVE US. AT THIS TIME WE WERE TOLD OF A SECOND CONFLICTING ACFT AT 12 O'CLOCK, 3 MI, AND GIVEN A HDG OF 260 DEGS. WE STARTED THE TURN WITHOUT SIGHT OF THE SECOND ACFT, BUT WE DID HAVE A TARGET ON TCASII. AT THIS TIME I WAS BACK IN THE COCKPIT AND SAW WE WERE PASSING THROUGH 9800 FT AT APPROX 2500 FPM CLB. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED OUT '10000 FT' TO ALERT THE CAPT BUT TO MY CHAGRIN WE HAVE A STANDARD 10000 FT CALL IN WHICH EXTERNAL LIGHTS ARE TURNED OFF AND THE BELL IS CHIMED TO INFORM THE CABIN CREW OF THE END OF OUR STERILE COCKPIT PROCS. SO AS I CALLED OUT '10000 FT' AS OUR ALT WARNING, THE CAPT STARTED TO PERFORM HIS DUTIES. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED OUT 'ALT' AT WHICH TIME THE CAPT PERFORMED AN ALT RECOVERY PROC AS DEN DEP TOLD US TO RETURN TO 10000 FT. THE CAPT MADE HIS RECOVERY BTWN 10400-10500 FT AND QUICKLY RETURNED THE ACFT TO 10000 FT. CORRECTIVE ACTION: EITHER ALLOW THE PNF TO PERFORM ALL THE CHKS AT 10000 FT OR MAKE IT A CHKLIST ITEM THAT THE PF WOULD HAVE TO INITIATE, THEREBY OMITTING ANY CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.