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Attributes | |
ACN | 304325 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mod airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak tower : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 304325 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 304172 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were level at 11000 ft when we received a TA from TCASII. Traffic was at 12 O'clock 10600 ft and climbing. I saw him visually and noticed a definite right to left movement. As he reached 11000 ft we got the RA 'descend' (1 time) followed by a command that I missed, then 'climb, climb now, climb, climb now.' the first officer turned off the autoplt, and followed the RA guidance. At 11600 ft the TCASII gave a 'clear of conflict' and we returned to 11000 ft. Notified approach control of the altitude deviation. Approach said that perhaps they should have mentioned the traffic. He was VFR, but approach apparently knew he was there. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the controller knew of the light aircraft's presence prior to the flight crew getting the TCASII RA, but for some reason did not tell them about it. The captain said that he watched the TCASII as the aircraft's return showed that he was climbing and saw that it was going to intrude into their area. He said to the first officer that he should get ready for a warning. The first warning was an RA. The reporter said that he has received several TCASII warnings and they have all been accurate. The other aircraft was a high wing single engine aircraft, but the captain did not have further information.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION. AN ACR RECEIVES A TCASII RA AND CLBS OUT OF DANGER THEN RETURNS TO ITS ORIGINAL ALT AND COURSE.
Narrative: WE WERE LEVEL AT 11000 FT WHEN WE RECEIVED A TA FROM TCASII. TFC WAS AT 12 O'CLOCK 10600 FT AND CLBING. I SAW HIM VISUALLY AND NOTICED A DEFINITE R TO L MOVEMENT. AS HE REACHED 11000 FT WE GOT THE RA 'DSND' (1 TIME) FOLLOWED BY A COMMAND THAT I MISSED, THEN 'CLB, CLB NOW, CLB, CLB NOW.' THE FO TURNED OFF THE AUTOPLT, AND FOLLOWED THE RA GUIDANCE. AT 11600 FT THE TCASII GAVE A 'CLR OF CONFLICT' AND WE RETURNED TO 11000 FT. NOTIFIED APCH CTL OF THE ALTDEV. APCH SAID THAT PERHAPS THEY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THE TFC. HE WAS VFR, BUT APCH APPARENTLY KNEW HE WAS THERE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE CTLR KNEW OF THE LIGHT ACFT'S PRESENCE PRIOR TO THE FLC GETTING THE TCASII RA, BUT FOR SOME REASON DID NOT TELL THEM ABOUT IT. THE CAPT SAID THAT HE WATCHED THE TCASII AS THE ACFT'S RETURN SHOWED THAT HE WAS CLBING AND SAW THAT IT WAS GOING TO INTRUDE INTO THEIR AREA. HE SAID TO THE FO THAT HE SHOULD GET READY FOR A WARNING. THE FIRST WARNING WAS AN RA. THE RPTR SAID THAT HE HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL TCASII WARNINGS AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN ACCURATE. THE OTHER ACFT WAS A HIGH WING SINGLE ENG ACFT, BUT THE CAPT DID NOT HAVE FURTHER INFO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.