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Attributes | |
ACN | 304558 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pxt |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 304558 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight plan was orf-hpw-hpw 025-tappa-J14-pxt-warrd 4-EWR- FL200. The warrd 4 arrival uses pxt, eno and robbinsville VOR's, none of which seem to be suitable for precise navigation. 1 controller commented we were 14 mi off track and the airways were too close together for that type error. At the time pxt was varying plus or minus 8 degrees and eno was varying plus or minus 5 degrees. A xchk with ott showed 5 NM left of track. Pxt and end switched back and forth showed anywhere from 1 NM right to 8 NM left of track -- if navigation is that crucial someone needs to check the navaids in that area -- they are not precise. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: ZDC airspace and procedures specialist stated the center controllers have not observed ongoing navigation deviation's because of unreliable navaids at pxt, eno and rbv. He stated the navaids have been flight checked recently and were reliable.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X CLAIMS NAV DEV DUE TO UNRELIABLE NAVAIDS.
Narrative: FLT PLAN WAS ORF-HPW-HPW 025-TAPPA-J14-PXT-WARRD 4-EWR- FL200. THE WARRD 4 ARR USES PXT, ENO AND ROBBINSVILLE VOR'S, NONE OF WHICH SEEM TO BE SUITABLE FOR PRECISE NAV. 1 CTLR COMMENTED WE WERE 14 MI OFF TRACK AND THE AIRWAYS WERE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER FOR THAT TYPE ERROR. AT THE TIME PXT WAS VARYING PLUS OR MINUS 8 DEGS AND ENO WAS VARYING PLUS OR MINUS 5 DEGS. A XCHK WITH OTT SHOWED 5 NM L OF TRACK. PXT AND END SWITCHED BACK AND FORTH SHOWED ANYWHERE FROM 1 NM R TO 8 NM L OF TRACK -- IF NAV IS THAT CRUCIAL SOMEONE NEEDS TO CHK THE NAVAIDS IN THAT AREA -- THEY ARE NOT PRECISE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: ZDC AIRSPACE AND PROCS SPECIALIST STATED THE CTR CTLRS HAVE NOT OBSERVED ONGOING NAV DEV'S BECAUSE OF UNRELIABLE NAVAIDS AT PXT, ENO AND RBV. HE STATED THE NAVAIDS HAVE BEEN FLT CHKED RECENTLY AND WERE RELIABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.