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Attributes | |
ACN | 305060 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 305060 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 900 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
During arrival to den we were given radar vectors to runway 17R where triple ILS's were being performed to the south. During approach we continually read back all headings and altitudes that were assigned. We were given a descent which we confirmed but as we proceeded, it appeared to be through another air carrier airplane's (with similar call sign) altitude. As we neared the localizer, it appeared (through observing our TCASII) as though he, too, was intercepting the same localizer and was extremely close. We attempted several times to get a word to approach who by now was even busier than before. At a point where we were within approximately 800-1000 ft vertical of our opposing traffic, we stopped our descent. We finally were able to get a hold of approach, whereupon being notified of our predicament, gave us an immediate climb and radar vector. As we began our climb and turn, we broke out of the clouds and saw our opposing traffic. The flight continued without incident to the airport. Traffic was very busy at this time. Thunderstorms were in the area with rain falling at the airport. The new approach system at den does a lot to reduce delays, but it appears when the area becomes saturated, a better plan for conflict would be in order. TCASII is a great tool but it too has a long way to go in interpretation in a very busy environment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT AVOIDED AFTER FLC OBSERVATION OF CONFLICTING TFC ON TCASII.
Narrative: DURING ARR TO DEN WE WERE GIVEN RADAR VECTORS TO RWY 17R WHERE TRIPLE ILS'S WERE BEING PERFORMED TO THE S. DURING APCH WE CONTINUALLY READ BACK ALL HDGS AND ALTS THAT WERE ASSIGNED. WE WERE GIVEN A DSCNT WHICH WE CONFIRMED BUT AS WE PROCEEDED, IT APPEARED TO BE THROUGH ANOTHER ACR AIRPLANE'S (WITH SIMILAR CALL SIGN) ALT. AS WE NEARED THE LOC, IT APPEARED (THROUGH OBSERVING OUR TCASII) AS THOUGH HE, TOO, WAS INTERCEPTING THE SAME LOC AND WAS EXTREMELY CLOSE. WE ATTEMPTED SEVERAL TIMES TO GET A WORD TO APCH WHO BY NOW WAS EVEN BUSIER THAN BEFORE. AT A POINT WHERE WE WERE WITHIN APPROX 800-1000 FT VERT OF OUR OPPOSING TFC, WE STOPPED OUR DSCNT. WE FINALLY WERE ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF APCH, WHEREUPON BEING NOTIFIED OF OUR PREDICAMENT, GAVE US AN IMMEDIATE CLB AND RADAR VECTOR. AS WE BEGAN OUR CLB AND TURN, WE BROKE OUT OF THE CLOUDS AND SAW OUR OPPOSING TFC. THE FLT CONTINUED WITHOUT INCIDENT TO THE ARPT. TFC WAS VERY BUSY AT THIS TIME. TSTMS WERE IN THE AREA WITH RAIN FALLING AT THE ARPT. THE NEW APCH SYS AT DEN DOES A LOT TO REDUCE DELAYS, BUT IT APPEARS WHEN THE AREA BECOMES SATURATED, A BETTER PLAN FOR CONFLICT WOULD BE IN ORDER. TCASII IS A GREAT TOOL BUT IT TOO HAS A LONG WAY TO GO IN INTERP IN A VERY BUSY ENVIRONMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.