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Attributes | |
ACN | 305685 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bjc |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 900 agl bound upper : 900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bjc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 42 flight time total : 1469 flight time type : 986 |
ASRS Report | 305685 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was on the ILS approach to jeffco, communicating with tower. My approach was too high and too fast, so I decided to go around. The airport was visually VFR and there was no other traffic at the time. Tower advised me that the airport was still officially IFR and that I really should (controller's words) declare a missed approach. I requested a VFR go around because the visibility/ceiling was in fact VFR. Tower told me to be sure to keep the airport in sight and I replied no problem. I continued my go around and requested and received clearance to land, which I did, and then taxied to parking. The question in my mind is, did I do something wrong or did the situation play out legal due to the airport actually being VFR by the time I arrived there? In reviewing my FARS, I cannot find the answer to my question. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter was flying a piper turbo arrow (PA 28R) on an instrument approach when he decided to go around rather than try to force a landing from a high fast approach. He announced that he was going around to the tower and commenced the maneuver. The tower controller replied that he was supposed to declare a missed approach. The pilot said that he did and he then requested a VFR close in pattern to land. The tower controller cleared him for the maneuver. The question from the reporter about whether he did something wrong seems to be partially resolved in the callback because he has recently been advised that the student controller was temporarily confused about the terms go around versus missed approach and he may have not heard the announcement by the pilot clearly because of tower conversations. There has been no further action on this event.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PHRASEOLOGY. AUDITORY INTERFERENCE. THE PLT ANNOUNCED A GAR AND BEGAN THE MANEUVER. THE CTLR QUESTIONED WHETHER HE HAD ANNOUNCED A MISSED APCH.
Narrative: I WAS ON THE ILS APCH TO JEFFCO, COMMUNICATING WITH TWR. MY APCH WAS TOO HIGH AND TOO FAST, SO I DECIDED TO GAR. THE ARPT WAS VISUALLY VFR AND THERE WAS NO OTHER TFC AT THE TIME. TWR ADVISED ME THAT THE ARPT WAS STILL OFFICIALLY IFR AND THAT I REALLY SHOULD (CTLR'S WORDS) DECLARE A MISSED APCH. I REQUESTED A VFR GAR BECAUSE THE VISIBILITY/CEILING WAS IN FACT VFR. TWR TOLD ME TO BE SURE TO KEEP THE ARPT IN SIGHT AND I REPLIED NO PROB. I CONTINUED MY GAR AND REQUESTED AND RECEIVED CLRNC TO LAND, WHICH I DID, AND THEN TAXIED TO PARKING. THE QUESTION IN MY MIND IS, DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG OR DID THE SIT PLAY OUT LEGAL DUE TO THE ARPT ACTUALLY BEING VFR BY THE TIME I ARRIVED THERE? IN REVIEWING MY FARS, I CANNOT FIND THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR WAS FLYING A PIPER TURBO ARROW (PA 28R) ON AN INST APCH WHEN HE DECIDED TO GAR RATHER THAN TRY TO FORCE A LNDG FROM A HIGH FAST APCH. HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS GOING AROUND TO THE TWR AND COMMENCED THE MANEUVER. THE TWR CTLR REPLIED THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DECLARE A MISSED APCH. THE PLT SAID THAT HE DID AND HE THEN REQUESTED A VFR CLOSE IN PATTERN TO LAND. THE TWR CTLR CLRED HIM FOR THE MANEUVER. THE QUESTION FROM THE RPTR ABOUT WHETHER HE DID SOMETHING WRONG SEEMS TO BE PARTIALLY RESOLVED IN THE CALLBACK BECAUSE HE HAS RECENTLY BEEN ADVISED THAT THE STUDENT CTLR WAS TEMPORARILY CONFUSED ABOUT THE TERMS GAR VERSUS MISSED APCH AND HE MAY HAVE NOT HEARD THE ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE PLT CLRLY BECAUSE OF TWR CONVERSATIONS. THERE HAS BEEN NO FURTHER ACTION ON THIS EVENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.