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Attributes | |
ACN | 307050 |
Time | |
Date | 199506 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mbw |
State Reference | WY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24500 msl bound upper : 25000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv tower : sfo |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 307050 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cruising at FL250 en route from riw to den. Clearance was direct mbw VOR ramms 1 arrival den. WX was cavu smooth air. About 20 mi from mbw VOR (where the course changed and STAR began), ATC said we were 500 ft low. We verified both altimeters were within 100 ft of FL250 and both altimeters were set to 29.92. We advised ATC we were maintaining FL250. At this time we began to troubleshoot. The transponder(south) have a test mode which shows mode, altitude being sent to ATC, sure enough it was sending back FL245 even though we were maintaining FL250 we tried switching xponders, no help, static heat no help, recycling no help, alternate static. Finally requested descent to FL230 to see if this would help. We had just completed the descent checklist when we noticed we had crossed mbw VOR where we should have turned. We overshot by 8 mi. We began an immediate turn back on course. ATC then advised us we were 10 east off course. We offered our apologies and said we were correcting. There was no terrain or traffic conflict (we were VMC). In 4000 hours of flying I have never done anything like this nor had the captain. Obviously what caused it was preoccupation with the transponder. I am well aware of the problems distrs can lead to. In fact, I used to teach my students not to let minor distrs interfere with task #1, flying the airplane! Perhaps I needed a refresher in that same lesson and today I got it. My advice to fellow pilots, when a problem (distraction) occurs, deal with it and then without delay get back to flying the airplane!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT EQUIP PROB, XPONDER. FLC DISTR.
Narrative: CRUISING AT FL250 ENRTE FROM RIW TO DEN. CLRNC WAS DIRECT MBW VOR RAMMS 1 ARR DEN. WX WAS CAVU SMOOTH AIR. ABOUT 20 MI FROM MBW VOR (WHERE THE COURSE CHANGED AND STAR BEGAN), ATC SAID WE WERE 500 FT LOW. WE VERIFIED BOTH ALTIMETERS WERE WITHIN 100 FT OF FL250 AND BOTH ALTIMETERS WERE SET TO 29.92. WE ADVISED ATC WE WERE MAINTAINING FL250. AT THIS TIME WE BEGAN TO TROUBLESHOOT. THE XPONDER(S) HAVE A TEST MODE WHICH SHOWS MODE, ALT BEING SENT TO ATC, SURE ENOUGH IT WAS SENDING BACK FL245 EVEN THOUGH WE WERE MAINTAINING FL250 WE TRIED SWITCHING XPONDERS, NO HELP, STATIC HEAT NO HELP, RECYCLING NO HELP, ALTERNATE STATIC. FINALLY REQUESTED DSCNT TO FL230 TO SEE IF THIS WOULD HELP. WE HAD JUST COMPLETED THE DSCNT CHKLIST WHEN WE NOTICED WE HAD CROSSED MBW VOR WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE TURNED. WE OVERSHOT BY 8 MI. WE BEGAN AN IMMEDIATE TURN BACK ON COURSE. ATC THEN ADVISED US WE WERE 10 E OFF COURSE. WE OFFERED OUR APOLOGIES AND SAID WE WERE CORRECTING. THERE WAS NO TERRAIN OR TFC CONFLICT (WE WERE VMC). IN 4000 HRS OF FLYING I HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS NOR HAD THE CAPT. OBVIOUSLY WHAT CAUSED IT WAS PREOCCUPATION WITH THE XPONDER. I AM WELL AWARE OF THE PROBS DISTRS CAN LEAD TO. IN FACT, I USED TO TEACH MY STUDENTS NOT TO LET MINOR DISTRS INTERFERE WITH TASK #1, FLYING THE AIRPLANE! PERHAPS I NEEDED A REFRESHER IN THAT SAME LESSON AND TODAY I GOT IT. MY ADVICE TO FELLOW PLTS, WHEN A PROB (DISTR) OCCURS, DEAL WITH IT AND THEN WITHOUT DELAY GET BACK TO FLYING THE AIRPLANE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.