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Attributes | |
ACN | 307055 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pdx |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 307055 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Prior to our a.M. Departure from sea, an FAA maintenance inspector preflted our plane and then came aboard and jump-seated to pdx. After arriving in pdx, he mentioned that on his inspection in sea, he had seen 2 'pin holes' in the #1 exhaust pipe. I immediately got on the radio and called maintenance control and told them 'we have just arrived with an FAA maintenance inspector who reported 2 pin holes in the #1 engine exhaust pipe. Could you send a mechanic over to look at it.' they replied that a mechanic was on the way. I deplaned and inspected the pin holes, left a fuel slip for the next flight and went to the ready room to check the WX and my mail box. When I returned to the plane the first officer was in his seat performing preflight duties and I didn't see a mechanic around the plane. I asked the first officer if maintenance had been there and he said they had and that the mechanic said 'the pin holes were not a safety problem' and left the area. I said 'ok,' got in my seat and prepared for the flight to yvr. When we called in our ETA to yvr we were informed that I was to call dispatch when we got on the ground. When I called, I was informed that the pin holes had to be inspected by a mechanic before we could depart yvr. A mechanic arrived and signed the logbook as per maintenance control instructions via phone. When we landed back in pdx we went to see the duty officer and found out the flight had been canceled (pdx-yvr) due to the pin holes. Neither myself or my crew had been notified by maintenance control, dispatch, operations, or anyone else that the flight was to be delayed or canceled for any reason. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: captain reporter informed his company maintenance that the FAA maintenance inspector had found pin holes in the exhaust, but the captain did not write it up in the logbook. The mechanic at pdx who looked at the discrepancy said that it is common and usually they stop drill the holes (drill larger holes to prevent tear creep). However, he did not do that and, since it was not written up, didn't sign it off. From there, lack of intra-company communication became a major problem. The passenger were boarded for the flight from pdx to yvr and the flight crew flew the leg. En route they were advised that it was necessary to have a mechanic sign off the discrepancy. The captain wrote it up, a canadian mechanic deferred it per company communication, and the flight returned to pdx. The chief pilot had a meeting with the captain and first officer informing them that their flight to yvr had been canceled and why did they fly it? In fact, not only was the flight crew not notified, neither were the passenger agents. Aircraft was grounded and repaired.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT DISCREPANCY FOUND BY FAA MAINT INSPECTOR AND FLT CONTINUED. INTRA-COMPANY COM PROB.
Narrative: PRIOR TO OUR A.M. DEP FROM SEA, AN FAA MAINT INSPECTOR PREFLTED OUR PLANE AND THEN CAME ABOARD AND JUMP-SEATED TO PDX. AFTER ARRIVING IN PDX, HE MENTIONED THAT ON HIS INSPECTION IN SEA, HE HAD SEEN 2 'PIN HOLES' IN THE #1 EXHAUST PIPE. I IMMEDIATELY GOT ON THE RADIO AND CALLED MAINT CTL AND TOLD THEM 'WE HAVE JUST ARRIVED WITH AN FAA MAINT INSPECTOR WHO RPTED 2 PIN HOLES IN THE #1 ENG EXHAUST PIPE. COULD YOU SEND A MECH OVER TO LOOK AT IT.' THEY REPLIED THAT A MECH WAS ON THE WAY. I DEPLANED AND INSPECTED THE PIN HOLES, LEFT A FUEL SLIP FOR THE NEXT FLT AND WENT TO THE READY ROOM TO CHK THE WX AND MY MAIL BOX. WHEN I RETURNED TO THE PLANE THE FO WAS IN HIS SEAT PERFORMING PREFLT DUTIES AND I DIDN'T SEE A MECH AROUND THE PLANE. I ASKED THE FO IF MAINT HAD BEEN THERE AND HE SAID THEY HAD AND THAT THE MECH SAID 'THE PIN HOLES WERE NOT A SAFETY PROB' AND LEFT THE AREA. I SAID 'OK,' GOT IN MY SEAT AND PREPARED FOR THE FLT TO YVR. WHEN WE CALLED IN OUR ETA TO YVR WE WERE INFORMED THAT I WAS TO CALL DISPATCH WHEN WE GOT ON THE GND. WHEN I CALLED, I WAS INFORMED THAT THE PIN HOLES HAD TO BE INSPECTED BY A MECH BEFORE WE COULD DEPART YVR. A MECH ARRIVED AND SIGNED THE LOGBOOK AS PER MAINT CTL INSTRUCTIONS VIA PHONE. WHEN WE LANDED BACK IN PDX WE WENT TO SEE THE DUTY OFFICER AND FOUND OUT THE FLT HAD BEEN CANCELED (PDX-YVR) DUE TO THE PIN HOLES. NEITHER MYSELF OR MY CREW HAD BEEN NOTIFIED BY MAINT CTL, DISPATCH, OPS, OR ANYONE ELSE THAT THE FLT WAS TO BE DELAYED OR CANCELED FOR ANY REASON. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: CAPT RPTR INFORMED HIS COMPANY MAINT THAT THE FAA MAINT INSPECTOR HAD FOUND PIN HOLES IN THE EXHAUST, BUT THE CAPT DID NOT WRITE IT UP IN THE LOGBOOK. THE MECH AT PDX WHO LOOKED AT THE DISCREPANCY SAID THAT IT IS COMMON AND USUALLY THEY STOP DRILL THE HOLES (DRILL LARGER HOLES TO PREVENT TEAR CREEP). HOWEVER, HE DID NOT DO THAT AND, SINCE IT WAS NOT WRITTEN UP, DIDN'T SIGN IT OFF. FROM THERE, LACK OF INTRA-COMPANY COM BECAME A MAJOR PROB. THE PAX WERE BOARDED FOR THE FLT FROM PDX TO YVR AND THE FLC FLEW THE LEG. ENRTE THEY WERE ADVISED THAT IT WAS NECESSARY TO HAVE A MECH SIGN OFF THE DISCREPANCY. THE CAPT WROTE IT UP, A CANADIAN MECH DEFERRED IT PER COMPANY COM, AND THE FLT RETURNED TO PDX. THE CHIEF PLT HAD A MEETING WITH THE CAPT AND FO INFORMING THEM THAT THEIR FLT TO YVR HAD BEEN CANCELED AND WHY DID THEY FLY IT? IN FACT, NOT ONLY WAS THE FLC NOT NOTIFIED, NEITHER WERE THE PAX AGENTS. ACFT WAS GNDED AND REPAIRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.