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Attributes | |
ACN | 308895 |
Time | |
Date | 199506 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13500 msl bound upper : 13500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 308895 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
ATC called traffic (B757) 5 mins prior to event. We were 4 1/2 mi in trail of the B757. The B757 descended into IMC and we lost sight of it. Shortly, we descended into IMC. A few mins later we experienced a 45 degree roll to the right. I have no idea how far ahead the B757 was when we rolled. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter participated in the wake turbulence structured callback program. Reporter stated that the shock of the wake was very strong, rolling his aircraft 50 degrees in bank. The duration was lengthy, lasting over 10 seconds. The question arises from the flight crew, can't something be done to keep following aircraft away from the wake of a larger aircraft in front of them. This flight crew was flying in IMC conditions and had no idea of where to move so as to avoid the wake. They hope there is a better way to separate traffic during an arrival. Flight path displacement was small, about 50 ft, but what felt significant to the reporter was the sharpness and severity of the roll. Both pilots grabbed for the controls. Aircraft responded well to the control inputs but was subject to the wake for a long duration.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WAKE TURB ENCOUNTER ON ARR AT DEN.
Narrative: ATC CALLED TFC (B757) 5 MINS PRIOR TO EVENT. WE WERE 4 1/2 MI IN TRAIL OF THE B757. THE B757 DSNDED INTO IMC AND WE LOST SIGHT OF IT. SHORTLY, WE DSNDED INTO IMC. A FEW MINS LATER WE EXPERIENCED A 45 DEG ROLL TO THE R. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW FAR AHEAD THE B757 WAS WHEN WE ROLLED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR PARTICIPATED IN THE WAKE TURB STRUCTURED CALLBACK PROGRAM. RPTR STATED THAT THE SHOCK OF THE WAKE WAS VERY STRONG, ROLLING HIS ACFT 50 DEGS IN BANK. THE DURATION WAS LENGTHY, LASTING OVER 10 SECONDS. THE QUESTION ARISES FROM THE FLC, CAN'T SOMETHING BE DONE TO KEEP FOLLOWING ACFT AWAY FROM THE WAKE OF A LARGER ACFT IN FRONT OF THEM. THIS FLC WAS FLYING IN IMC CONDITIONS AND HAD NO IDEA OF WHERE TO MOVE SO AS TO AVOID THE WAKE. THEY HOPE THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO SEPARATE TFC DURING AN ARR. FLT PATH DISPLACEMENT WAS SMALL, ABOUT 50 FT, BUT WHAT FELT SIGNIFICANT TO THE RPTR WAS THE SHARPNESS AND SEVERITY OF THE ROLL. BOTH PLTS GRABBED FOR THE CTLS. ACFT RESPONDED WELL TO THE CTL INPUTS BUT WAS SUBJECT TO THE WAKE FOR A LONG DURATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.