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Attributes | |
ACN | 309550 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 309550 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight XXXX departed dca sbound en route to ord. On initial contact with departure control flight was given a right turn to 330 degrees and climb to 11000 ft. Departure control was advised that on that heading severe thunderstorms would be encountered at 12 O'clock and about 25 mi and we required deviation either left or right, his choice. His response was 'roger.' deviation was twice again requested with the same response. At this point with WX directly ahead at 5-7 mi he was told of our intent to turn left 45 degrees. His response was 'I didn't approve any deviation -- contact dulles approach on XXX.xx!' upon contact with dulles, they were advised of our deviation and their response was 'deviation approved.' this is a clear case of the use of captain's authority/authorized to safely conduct flight around severe thunderstorms following controller's inability to take action when requested.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLC DEVIATED FOR WX IN ABSENCE OF ATC CLRNC.
Narrative: FLT XXXX DEPARTED DCA SBOUND ENRTE TO ORD. ON INITIAL CONTACT WITH DEP CTL FLT WAS GIVEN A R TURN TO 330 DEGS AND CLB TO 11000 FT. DEP CTL WAS ADVISED THAT ON THAT HDG SEVERE TSTMS WOULD BE ENCOUNTERED AT 12 O'CLOCK AND ABOUT 25 MI AND WE REQUIRED DEV EITHER L OR R, HIS CHOICE. HIS RESPONSE WAS 'ROGER.' DEV WAS TWICE AGAIN REQUESTED WITH THE SAME RESPONSE. AT THIS POINT WITH WX DIRECTLY AHEAD AT 5-7 MI HE WAS TOLD OF OUR INTENT TO TURN L 45 DEGS. HIS RESPONSE WAS 'I DIDN'T APPROVE ANY DEV -- CONTACT DULLES APCH ON XXX.XX!' UPON CONTACT WITH DULLES, THEY WERE ADVISED OF OUR DEV AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS 'DEV APPROVED.' THIS IS A CLR CASE OF THE USE OF CAPT'S AUTH TO SAFELY CONDUCT FLT AROUND SEVERE TSTMS FOLLOWING CTLR'S INABILITY TO TAKE ACTION WHEN REQUESTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.