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Attributes | |
ACN | 309746 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rjnn |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : rjtg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 40 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 309746 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 309744 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other |
Consequence | Other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Went missed approach at nagoya due to low ceilings. Approach flown VOR a. Reported WX 1500 ft scattered 3000 ft broken, actual ceiling 600 ft. Requested direct osaka to divert. Given a circuitous route that was about 125 mi out of the way. Fuel at missed approach was 21000 pounds. Fuel direct osaka planned burn 11700 pounds. Declared a fuel emergency in order to get priority direct to osaka, landing fuel 9500 pounds. Divert fuel was planned for direct osaka. ATC does not approve direct osaka. Divert fuel plan should have included sufficient fuel for the standard profile. Supplemental information from acn 309744: when arriving over our missed approach point at 1000 ft and no runway in sight we executed a missed approach. We requested a runway 34 ILS and were denied. Communication with the japanese controllers became a problem. We loaded more fuel at rjbb and arranged for an ILS runway 34 approach at rjnn and then made it to our original destination. Rjnn does not have an ILS for runway 16, only VOR, ASR or PAR. My airline has not elected to train the DC10 crew's for PAR. Callback conversation with reporter from acn #309744 revealed the following information: the reporter flies the dc-10-40 for a major united states air carrier. Since this incident, he has been named a check airman on the dc-10 and has been able to correct his air carrier's alternate fuel planning in the japanese airspace to reflect the actual routings that crews can receive when going to their alternates. He believes that crews must be very forceful to get their desires understood in japanese airspace. He believes that there is a language problem and culture problem that is hard to overcome.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FUEL EMER DECLARED.
Narrative: WENT MISSED APCH AT NAGOYA DUE TO LOW CEILINGS. APCH FLOWN VOR A. RPTED WX 1500 FT SCATTERED 3000 FT BROKEN, ACTUAL CEILING 600 FT. REQUESTED DIRECT OSAKA TO DIVERT. GIVEN A CIRCUITOUS RTE THAT WAS ABOUT 125 MI OUT OF THE WAY. FUEL AT MISSED APCH WAS 21000 LBS. FUEL DIRECT OSAKA PLANNED BURN 11700 LBS. DECLARED A FUEL EMER IN ORDER TO GET PRIORITY DIRECT TO OSAKA, LNDG FUEL 9500 LBS. DIVERT FUEL WAS PLANNED FOR DIRECT OSAKA. ATC DOES NOT APPROVE DIRECT OSAKA. DIVERT FUEL PLAN SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED SUFFICIENT FUEL FOR THE STANDARD PROFILE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 309744: WHEN ARRIVING OVER OUR MISSED APCH POINT AT 1000 FT AND NO RWY IN SIGHT WE EXECUTED A MISSED APCH. WE REQUESTED A RWY 34 ILS AND WERE DENIED. COM WITH THE JAPANESE CTLRS BECAME A PROB. WE LOADED MORE FUEL AT RJBB AND ARRANGED FOR AN ILS RWY 34 APCH AT RJNN AND THEN MADE IT TO OUR ORIGINAL DEST. RJNN DOES NOT HAVE AN ILS FOR RWY 16, ONLY VOR, ASR OR PAR. MY AIRLINE HAS NOT ELECTED TO TRAIN THE DC10 CREW'S FOR PAR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR FROM ACN #309744 REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR FLIES THE DC-10-40 FOR A MAJOR UNITED STATES ACR. SINCE THIS INCIDENT, HE HAS BEEN NAMED A CHK AIRMAN ON THE DC-10 AND HAS BEEN ABLE TO CORRECT HIS ACR'S ALTERNATE FUEL PLANNING IN THE JAPANESE AIRSPACE TO REFLECT THE ACTUAL ROUTINGS THAT CREWS CAN RECEIVE WHEN GOING TO THEIR ALTERNATES. HE BELIEVES THAT CREWS MUST BE VERY FORCEFUL TO GET THEIR DESIRES UNDERSTOOD IN JAPANESE AIRSPACE. HE BELIEVES THAT THERE IS A LANGUAGE PROB AND CULTURE PROB THAT IS HARD TO OVERCOME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.