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Attributes | |
ACN | 310277 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tower : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 310277 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4500 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Our takeoff clearance from dfw as 'cleared for takeoff runway 18L, turn left heading 155 degrees.' first officer was flying. After retracting flaps from 5 degrees to 1 degree, I (the captain) looked out my left side window to look for traffic and noticed that we were converging with an MD80 who was departing off runway 17R. I asked the departure controller, 'hey, what is that MD80 doing? We're heading towards him.' at this time the controller did not have that aircraft on radar and questioned my statement, followed by his statement of something like, 'well, turn to avoid him.' (gee thanks.) we turned to 190 degrees to increase spacing. Soon after our making the turn the departure controller got the MD80 in radar contact and provided separation. At no time did I feel that our aircraft was in danger, and the 'avoidance' turn was not excessive in bank rate or angle. I do not believe that the aircraft would have collided had we not made the turn, because the MD80 was accelerating quicker than we were. I have subsequently followed up with dfw quality assurance and was told that their investigation revealed that the west local controller did, in fact, coordinate our turn with the east local controller. However, it appears that the east controller 'got confused' and thought that a previous aircraft departure was ours. Therefore, once that aircraft departed he thought that he no longer needed the slot so he cleared the MD80 for takeoff. I believe that it is noteworthy that TCASII never sounded. At our closest point of approach, the 2 aircraft 100 vertically and 3/4 mi laterally.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OPERROR. LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN ACR X AND ACR Y.
Narrative: OUR TKOF CLRNC FROM DFW AS 'CLRED FOR TKOF RWY 18L, TURN L HDG 155 DEGS.' FO WAS FLYING. AFTER RETRACTING FLAPS FROM 5 DEGS TO 1 DEG, I (THE CAPT) LOOKED OUT MY L SIDE WINDOW TO LOOK FOR TFC AND NOTICED THAT WE WERE CONVERGING WITH AN MD80 WHO WAS DEPARTING OFF RWY 17R. I ASKED THE DEP CTLR, 'HEY, WHAT IS THAT MD80 DOING? WE'RE HEADING TOWARDS HIM.' AT THIS TIME THE CTLR DID NOT HAVE THAT ACFT ON RADAR AND QUESTIONED MY STATEMENT, FOLLOWED BY HIS STATEMENT OF SOMETHING LIKE, 'WELL, TURN TO AVOID HIM.' (GEE THANKS.) WE TURNED TO 190 DEGS TO INCREASE SPACING. SOON AFTER OUR MAKING THE TURN THE DEP CTLR GOT THE MD80 IN RADAR CONTACT AND PROVIDED SEPARATION. AT NO TIME DID I FEEL THAT OUR ACFT WAS IN DANGER, AND THE 'AVOIDANCE' TURN WAS NOT EXCESSIVE IN BANK RATE OR ANGLE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE ACFT WOULD HAVE COLLIDED HAD WE NOT MADE THE TURN, BECAUSE THE MD80 WAS ACCELERATING QUICKER THAN WE WERE. I HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY FOLLOWED UP WITH DFW QUALITY ASSURANCE AND WAS TOLD THAT THEIR INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT THE W LCL CTLR DID, IN FACT, COORDINATE OUR TURN WITH THE E LCL CTLR. HOWEVER, IT APPEARS THAT THE E CTLR 'GOT CONFUSED' AND THOUGHT THAT A PREVIOUS ACFT DEP WAS OURS. THEREFORE, ONCE THAT ACFT DEPARTED HE THOUGHT THAT HE NO LONGER NEEDED THE SLOT SO HE CLRED THE MD80 FOR TKOF. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOTEWORTHY THAT TCASII NEVER SOUNDED. AT OUR CLOSEST POINT OF APCH, THE 2 ACFT 100 VERTLY AND 3/4 MI LATERALLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.