An air carrier brasilia jammed its horizontal tail under the tail of a B767.

Attributes
ACN	310851
Time
Date	199507
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Brasilia EMB-120 All Series
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	B767-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5550 flight time type : 2800
ASRS Report	310851
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground critical other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

In sum: an air carrier brasilia hit an air carrier 767 while taxiing out at night at lax. The brasilia's left horizontal 'T' tailplane scraped the underside of the right horizontal tailplane of the B767. The reporting first officer offered to call the air carrier to inspect the brasilia to see why it stopped so abruptly. Communication was hard to establish. The captain thought that they had hit a chock lying on the taxiway, so the captain added power. The brasilia moved forward slightly, then 'back hard.' now the brasilia was wedged and the damage was compounded. The reporter goes on to list several excuses or reasons: fatigue, construction in the ramp area, ramp congestion, night time, poor lighting, poor communications both between the aircraft and its operations office and within the cockpit, etc. Cockpit resource management is mentioned -- 'I think opinions should be asked of other crewmembers prior to any further action.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR BRASILIA JAMMED ITS HORIZ TAIL UNDER THE TAIL OF A B767.

Narrative: IN SUM: AN ACR BRASILIA HIT AN ACR 767 WHILE TAXIING OUT AT NIGHT AT LAX. THE BRASILIA'S L HORIZ 'T' TAILPLANE SCRAPED THE UNDERSIDE OF THE R HORIZ TAILPLANE OF THE B767. THE RPTING FO OFFERED TO CALL THE ACR TO INSPECT THE BRASILIA TO SEE WHY IT STOPPED SO ABRUPTLY. COM WAS HARD TO ESTABLISH. THE CAPT THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD HIT A CHOCK LYING ON THE TXWY, SO THE CAPT ADDED PWR. THE BRASILIA MOVED FORWARD SLIGHTLY, THEN 'BACK HARD.' NOW THE BRASILIA WAS WEDGED AND THE DAMAGE WAS COMPOUNDED. THE RPTR GOES ON TO LIST SEVERAL EXCUSES OR REASONS: FATIGUE, CONSTRUCTION IN THE RAMP AREA, RAMP CONGESTION, NIGHT TIME, POOR LIGHTING, POOR COMS BOTH BTWN THE ACFT AND ITS OPS OFFICE AND WITHIN THE COCKPIT, ETC. COCKPIT RESOURCE MGMNT IS MENTIONED -- 'I THINK OPINIONS SHOULD BE ASKED OF OTHER CREWMEMBERS PRIOR TO ANY FURTHER ACTION.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.