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Attributes | |
ACN | 311306 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ric |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1700 msl bound upper : 1700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ric |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 20000 |
ASRS Report | 311306 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 311322 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Hazy low scud in ric area -- refused visual and vectored for VOR/DME 20 180 degrees inbound leg 1700 ft at oberg FAF visibility 7 mi below scud layer. Hand flew aircraft until 8000 ft MSL extended flaps to 5 degrees 17 KIAS recoupled autoplt, slight descent to 1700 ft to intercept inbound leg prior to oberg. Used LNAV with VOR raw data on first officer side. A channel used on autoplt upon intercept. Radar autoplt on aircraft rolled right rapidly, disconnected autoplt, continued to roll right as wheel stayed deflected. Had to hold 1/2 wheel throw left to keep wings level and more to turn left. Disconnected yaw damper, no change, reengaged no change rudder zero degree deflection prior to initial autoplt engagement aircraft in trim laterally, longitude, and pitch. Only 1 MEL (APU inoperative), good trimming aircraft. Rudder trim .005 left of center, completed land check list, cleared to land, 40 degrees flaps due to 6607 ft runway 20 run-up, 89 degree temperature no turbulence or crosswind. Did not have time to declare emergency final landing. Phase -- landed without incident. Spoiler deployed normally and also cycled them on approach to see if any spoiler float -- none. After taxi-in and engine shutdown the control wheel was deflected 3 1/2 units right. Outside aircraft flight spoilers up approximately 10 degrees right side and right aileron up 1 1/2 inches above flared position. Also tried opposite aileron trim no change in control wheel or pressure. Taxi-in no nosewheel deflection -- normal and engines were symmetrical on approach, flaps even, and fuel tanks quantity indicated within 10 pounds of each other. No opinions other than once autoplt disconnected, 'increasing' roll rate stopped at last amount prior to disconnect, approximately 30 degrees bank right. Also deployed speed brakes to check for flight spoiler float -- none. Ground spoilers deployed normally on ground. At no time did I lose control of aircraft. After roll to right was stopped and runway in sight did not make any large control inputs, held what I had. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: the reporter said he was flying a B737-400. He had his feet on the rudder pedals but seemed unsure whether he was applying rudder pressure. The reporter believes the cause of the problem was the autoplt did not totally disengage. The reporter disengaged the autoplt 3 times recycling the autoplt engage disengage paddles on and off 3 times. He did turn off the yaw damper and there was no abnormal response. The mechanics stated the flight recorder showed the autoplt was turned on momentarily on the ground taxiing in. No one turned on the autoplt. The reporter suggested that practice occur in trimming and cross controling in the simulator curriculum training so the pilot would recognize more readily asymmetrical engine power or drag to compensate appropriately.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE BOEING 737-400 MADE AN UNCOMMANDED R ROLL AND AFTER AUTOPLT DISCONNECT THE R ROLL TENDENCY PERSISTED AND HAD TO BE OFFSET WITH COMMENSURATE L AILERON TO MAINTAIN WINGS LEVEL AND ADDITIONAL AILERON TO TURN TO THE L.
Narrative: HAZY LOW SCUD IN RIC AREA -- REFUSED VISUAL AND VECTORED FOR VOR/DME 20 180 DEGS INBOUND LEG 1700 FT AT OBERG FAF VISIBILITY 7 MI BELOW SCUD LAYER. HAND FLEW ACFT UNTIL 8000 FT MSL EXTENDED FLAPS TO 5 DEGS 17 KIAS RECOUPLED AUTOPLT, SLIGHT DSCNT TO 1700 FT TO INTERCEPT INBOUND LEG PRIOR TO OBERG. USED LNAV WITH VOR RAW DATA ON FO SIDE. A CHANNEL USED ON AUTOPLT UPON INTERCEPT. RADAR AUTOPLT ON ACFT ROLLED R RAPIDLY, DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT, CONTINUED TO ROLL R AS WHEEL STAYED DEFLECTED. HAD TO HOLD 1/2 WHEEL THROW L TO KEEP WINGS LEVEL AND MORE TO TURN L. DISCONNECTED YAW DAMPER, NO CHANGE, REENGAGED NO CHANGE RUDDER ZERO DEG DEFLECTION PRIOR TO INITIAL AUTOPLT ENGAGEMENT ACFT IN TRIM LATERALLY, LONGITUDE, AND PITCH. ONLY 1 MEL (APU INOP), GOOD TRIMMING ACFT. RUDDER TRIM .005 LEFT OF CTR, COMPLETED LAND CHK LIST, CLRED TO LAND, 40 DEGS FLAPS DUE TO 6607 FT RWY 20 RUN-UP, 89 DEG TEMP NO TURB OR XWIND. DID NOT HAVE TIME TO DECLARE EMER FINAL LNDG. PHASE -- LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. SPOILER DEPLOYED NORMALLY AND ALSO CYCLED THEM ON APCH TO SEE IF ANY SPOILER FLOAT -- NONE. AFTER TAXI-IN AND ENG SHUTDOWN THE CTL WHEEL WAS DEFLECTED 3 1/2 UNITS R. OUTSIDE ACFT FLT SPOILERS UP APPROX 10 DEGS R SIDE AND R AILERON UP 1 1/2 INCHES ABOVE FLARED POS. ALSO TRIED OPPOSITE AILERON TRIM NO CHANGE IN CTL WHEEL OR PRESSURE. TAXI-IN NO NOSEWHEEL DEFLECTION -- NORMAL AND ENGS WERE SYMMETRICAL ON APCH, FLAPS EVEN, AND FUEL TANKS QUANTITY INDICATED WITHIN 10 LBS OF EACH OTHER. NO OPINIONS OTHER THAN ONCE AUTOPLT DISCONNECTED, 'INCREASING' ROLL RATE STOPPED AT LAST AMOUNT PRIOR TO DISCONNECT, APPROX 30 DEGS BANK R. ALSO DEPLOYED SPD BRAKES TO CHK FOR FLT SPOILER FLOAT -- NONE. GND SPOILERS DEPLOYED NORMALLY ON GND. AT NO TIME DID I LOSE CTL OF ACFT. AFTER ROLL TO R WAS STOPPED AND RWY IN SIGHT DID NOT MAKE ANY LARGE CTL INPUTS, HELD WHAT I HAD. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: THE RPTR SAID HE WAS FLYING A B737-400. HE HAD HIS FEET ON THE RUDDER PEDALS BUT SEEMED UNSURE WHETHER HE WAS APPLYING RUDDER PRESSURE. THE RPTR BELIEVES THE CAUSE OF THE PROB WAS THE AUTOPLT DID NOT TOTALLY DISENGAGE. THE RPTR DISENGAGED THE AUTOPLT 3 TIMES RECYCLING THE AUTOPLT ENGAGE DISENGAGE PADDLES ON AND OFF 3 TIMES. HE DID TURN OFF THE YAW DAMPER AND THERE WAS NO ABNORMAL RESPONSE. THE MECHS STATED THE FLT RECORDER SHOWED THE AUTOPLT WAS TURNED ON MOMENTARILY ON THE GND TAXIING IN. NO ONE TURNED ON THE AUTOPLT. THE RPTR SUGGESTED THAT PRACTICE OCCUR IN TRIMMING AND CROSS CTLING IN THE SIMULATOR CURRICULUM TRAINING SO THE PLT WOULD RECOGNIZE MORE READILY ASYMMETRICAL ENG PWR OR DRAG TO COMPENSATE APPROPRIATELY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.