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Attributes | |
ACN | 312290 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dvv |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zdv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zdv |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2800 |
ASRS Report | 312290 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 312292 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Previous controller had cleared us direct to dandd intersection. Later we got a clearance to FL240. Then we got a clearance for the dandd 1 arrival. The first officer said we were cleared to 17000 ft via the dandd 1 arrival. I questioned the 17000 ft, but knew the dandd intersection had a 250 KT and 17000 ft note. At a frequency change, the first officer checked in and said cleared to 17000 ft. We were above FL240. The ATC controller said nothing about the 17000 ft clearance limit. At 17600 ft the controller questioned our altitude. A discussion ensued. The 17000 ft and 250 KTS is an 'expect.' we busted the FL240 descent limit.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV FROM ASSIGNED. MISREAD ARR.
Narrative: PREVIOUS CTLR HAD CLRED US DIRECT TO DANDD INTXN. LATER WE GOT A CLRNC TO FL240. THEN WE GOT A CLRNC FOR THE DANDD 1 ARR. THE FO SAID WE WERE CLRED TO 17000 FT VIA THE DANDD 1 ARR. I QUESTIONED THE 17000 FT, BUT KNEW THE DANDD INTXN HAD A 250 KT AND 17000 FT NOTE. AT A FREQ CHANGE, THE FO CHKED IN AND SAID CLRED TO 17000 FT. WE WERE ABOVE FL240. THE ATC CTLR SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE 17000 FT CLRNC LIMIT. AT 17600 FT THE CTLR QUESTIONED OUR ALT. A DISCUSSION ENSUED. THE 17000 FT AND 250 KTS IS AN 'EXPECT.' WE BUSTED THE FL240 DSCNT LIMIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.