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Attributes | |
ACN | 313891 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bna |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 313891 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
All I'm trying to do is alert other crews of a possible gotcha at bna. The nashville 7 departure on page 10-3 is incorrect as published. The departure off runway 2R is now a right turn to 045 degrees to intercept the 068 degree radial. The only notification to air crew is a note on the bottom of the clearance pre departure clearance. Here's the gotcha: if your routing is changed and the ACARS clearance consists of a note to verbally call clearance, you are cleared for the 'nashville 7' with no mention of the new heading and radial off runway 2R. This happened to us, but fortunately we had just been through bna and had written down the new heading on page 10- 3. The only possible reminder might be the yellow noise abatement sign at the end of the runway that reflects the new data, but since when does an airport sign take precedence over a current commercial or government SID page? I recommend you put out a message to nashville flts until 10-3 is updated. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter flies the FK10. He does not regularly fly through bna, and has not been through there since this report was submitted. The reporter's air carrier has talked to bna controllers and found that the change mentioned is on a 'test only' basis to alleviate noise problems in the neighborhood. Bna expects the change to be permanent, but will not notify the commercial chart supplier and government agency until the test is considered successful. The message telling of the new heading and radial is located on the bottom of the pre departure clearance delivered to the aircraft by ACARS. TRACON departure controllers mention any deviation from the new heading and radial.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE NASHVILLE 7 DEP HDG AND RADIAL HAVE BEEN CHANGED ON A TEST BASIS, BUT NOT ON COMMERCIAL OR GOV CHARTS.
Narrative: ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS ALERT OTHER CREWS OF A POSSIBLE GOTCHA AT BNA. THE NASHVILLE 7 DEP ON PAGE 10-3 IS INCORRECT AS PUBLISHED. THE DEP OFF RWY 2R IS NOW A R TURN TO 045 DEGS TO INTERCEPT THE 068 DEG RADIAL. THE ONLY NOTIFICATION TO AIR CREW IS A NOTE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE CLRNC PDC. HERE'S THE GOTCHA: IF YOUR ROUTING IS CHANGED AND THE ACARS CLRNC CONSISTS OF A NOTE TO VERBALLY CALL CLRNC, YOU ARE CLRED FOR THE 'NASHVILLE 7' WITH NO MENTION OF THE NEW HDG AND RADIAL OFF RWY 2R. THIS HAPPENED TO US, BUT FORTUNATELY WE HAD JUST BEEN THROUGH BNA AND HAD WRITTEN DOWN THE NEW HDG ON PAGE 10- 3. THE ONLY POSSIBLE REMINDER MIGHT BE THE YELLOW NOISE ABATEMENT SIGN AT THE END OF THE RWY THAT REFLECTS THE NEW DATA, BUT SINCE WHEN DOES AN ARPT SIGN TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER A CURRENT COMMERCIAL OR GOV SID PAGE? I RECOMMEND YOU PUT OUT A MESSAGE TO NASHVILLE FLTS UNTIL 10-3 IS UPDATED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR FLIES THE FK10. HE DOES NOT REGULARLY FLY THROUGH BNA, AND HAS NOT BEEN THROUGH THERE SINCE THIS RPT WAS SUBMITTED. THE RPTR'S ACR HAS TALKED TO BNA CTLRS AND FOUND THAT THE CHANGE MENTIONED IS ON A 'TEST ONLY' BASIS TO ALLEVIATE NOISE PROBS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BNA EXPECTS THE CHANGE TO BE PERMANENT, BUT WILL NOT NOTIFY THE COMMERCIAL CHART SUPPLIER AND GOV AGENCY UNTIL THE TEST IS CONSIDERED SUCCESSFUL. THE MESSAGE TELLING OF THE NEW HDG AND RADIAL IS LOCATED ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PDC DELIVERED TO THE ACFT BY ACARS. TRACON DEP CTLRS MENTION ANY DEV FROM THE NEW HDG AND RADIAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.