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Attributes | |
ACN | 314210 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : trm |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 314210 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On scheduled flight from lax to yum (lax, sli, V64, trm, V137, ipl, V458, bza, yum) I missed the turn at wiste intersection (31 NM DME 109 degree radial from trm) by 10 NM. I actually began the turn at 41 DME. This is not a good place to miss a turn because it is very near R-2507S plus abel MOA. In fact we entered the MOA by several mi. ATC never advised us we were off course. As soon as I recognized my error, I turned back and joined the airway. No cautions or advisories were ever given by ATC. It was as if they never noticed the error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LTT MAY HAVE PENETRATED MOA AIRSPACE WHEN THEY FAILED TO TURN ON AN AIRWAY FIX.
Narrative: ON SCHEDULED FLT FROM LAX TO YUM (LAX, SLI, V64, TRM, V137, IPL, V458, BZA, YUM) I MISSED THE TURN AT WISTE INTXN (31 NM DME 109 DEG RADIAL FROM TRM) BY 10 NM. I ACTUALLY BEGAN THE TURN AT 41 DME. THIS IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO MISS A TURN BECAUSE IT IS VERY NEAR R-2507S PLUS ABEL MOA. IN FACT WE ENTERED THE MOA BY SEVERAL MI. ATC NEVER ADVISED US WE WERE OFF COURSE. AS SOON AS I RECOGNIZED MY ERROR, I TURNED BACK AND JOINED THE AIRWAY. NO CAUTIONS OR ADVISORIES WERE EVER GIVEN BY ATC. IT WAS AS IF THEY NEVER NOTICED THE ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.