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Attributes | |
ACN | 314336 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 314336 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 314335 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ZID cleared flight to descend and cross the 40 DME of cvg VOR 12000 ft 250 KTS. It was going to be close since we were started down late. I requested that the 250 KT restr be lifted thinking that I would be able to make the 12000 ft. I misjudged my ability to make the restr even at a high rate of descent. Over-flew point by approximately 3 mi. My error was not in advising center that we would be unable to make it. Should have declared inability to controller. No traffic conflict reported.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC MISSED XING FIX ALT RESTR BY 3 MI.
Narrative: ZID CLRED FLT TO DSND AND CROSS THE 40 DME OF CVG VOR 12000 FT 250 KTS. IT WAS GOING TO BE CLOSE SINCE WE WERE STARTED DOWN LATE. I REQUESTED THAT THE 250 KT RESTR BE LIFTED THINKING THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THE 12000 FT. I MISJUDGED MY ABILITY TO MAKE THE RESTR EVEN AT A HIGH RATE OF DSCNT. OVER-FLEW POINT BY APPROX 3 MI. MY ERROR WAS NOT IN ADVISING CTR THAT WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO MAKE IT. SHOULD HAVE DECLARED INABILITY TO CTLR. NO TFC CONFLICT RPTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.