37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 315458 |
Time | |
Date | 199509 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ict |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 315458 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : far non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During the initial part of the takeoff roll the captain appeared confused by the engine readouts. At one point he checked the propellers were forward by pushing on them. At this point I could see that the propeller RPM was good but torque was reading 2500 pounds, and we needed a minimum torque of 3245 to takeoff. As I called 80 KTS we still indicated the same torque regardless of his advancing of the power levers. I announced, 'torque is below minimum for takeoff.' 'that's your problem.' at that I expected he would abort. As we went through V1 he rotated. We completed the flight with unreliable torque indications. The indication was low for both engines. Maintenance replaced a fuse in the indication system and it was fixed. I reported him to the chief pilot because he seemed to act like he did the right thing. In reflecting on it with other pilots, one suggested that I also should have said, 'aren't you going to abort!' I also read that if you use the person's first name when asking for action from them, it's more of an attention getter.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BE-1900 PIC CONTINUES TKOF EVEN AS FO CALLS, 'TORQUE IS BELOW MINIMUMS FOR TKOF.'
Narrative: DURING THE INITIAL PART OF THE TKOF ROLL THE CAPT APPEARED CONFUSED BY THE ENG READOUTS. AT ONE POINT HE CHKED THE PROPS WERE FORWARD BY PUSHING ON THEM. AT THIS POINT I COULD SEE THAT THE PROP RPM WAS GOOD BUT TORQUE WAS READING 2500 LBS, AND WE NEEDED A MINIMUM TORQUE OF 3245 TO TKOF. AS I CALLED 80 KTS WE STILL INDICATED THE SAME TORQUE REGARDLESS OF HIS ADVANCING OF THE PWR LEVERS. I ANNOUNCED, 'TORQUE IS BELOW MINIMUM FOR TKOF.' 'THAT'S YOUR PROB.' AT THAT I EXPECTED HE WOULD ABORT. AS WE WENT THROUGH V1 HE ROTATED. WE COMPLETED THE FLT WITH UNRELIABLE TORQUE INDICATIONS. THE INDICATION WAS LOW FOR BOTH ENGS. MAINT REPLACED A FUSE IN THE INDICATION SYS AND IT WAS FIXED. I RPTED HIM TO THE CHIEF PLT BECAUSE HE SEEMED TO ACT LIKE HE DID THE RIGHT THING. IN REFLECTING ON IT WITH OTHER PLTS, ONE SUGGESTED THAT I ALSO SHOULD HAVE SAID, 'AREN'T YOU GOING TO ABORT!' I ALSO READ THAT IF YOU USE THE PERSON'S FIRST NAME WHEN ASKING FOR ACTION FROM THEM, IT'S MORE OF AN ATTN GETTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.