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Attributes | |
ACN | 315804 |
Time | |
Date | 199509 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute airway : zdc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 255 flight time total : 30000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 315804 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
At approximately 30 NM south of dca we encountered what I believe was an upset caused by wake turbulence behind a B-757 that was, according to ATC and TCASII about 8-9 mi ahead of us and 2100 ft below us. The aircraft was also flying the 'irons' arrival into dca. When we hit their wake our autoplt kicked off and the aircraft experienced several violent rolls both left and right 40 degrees. The first officer who was flying, said he did not have to go to the stops on the ailerons but did have his hands full. It required an explanation to the passenger on the PA. I asked the captain of the B-757 later on if he flew a normal, idle, clean, descent. He replied 'yes' his weight was approximately 180000 pounds. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated he was flying a 737-300. He was 9 mi in trail of a boeing 757 as determined both by TCASII and confirmed by ATC. The reporter in talking with the 757 captain learned the 757 was also descending clean at idle thrust. The reporter wanted to emphasize the air was smooth. The reporter suggested ATC adopt a minimum of 5 mi behind a 757 for a non-heavy in trail. The major motion associated with the wake encounter was rapid roll left and right of about 40 degrees in each direction. The first officer oriented the airplane away from the in trail path to escape and avoid future encounters. The reporter estimated the encounter lasted about 7-9 seconds. The reporter did not get on to the controls with the first officer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR ENCOUNTERS BOEING 757 WAKE TURB.
Narrative: AT APPROX 30 NM S OF DCA WE ENCOUNTERED WHAT I BELIEVE WAS AN UPSET CAUSED BY WAKE TURB BEHIND A B-757 THAT WAS, ACCORDING TO ATC AND TCASII ABOUT 8-9 MI AHEAD OF US AND 2100 FT BELOW US. THE ACFT WAS ALSO FLYING THE 'IRONS' ARR INTO DCA. WHEN WE HIT THEIR WAKE OUR AUTOPLT KICKED OFF AND THE ACFT EXPERIENCED SEVERAL VIOLENT ROLLS BOTH L AND R 40 DEGS. THE FO WHO WAS FLYING, SAID HE DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE STOPS ON THE AILERONS BUT DID HAVE HIS HANDS FULL. IT REQUIRED AN EXPLANATION TO THE PAX ON THE PA. I ASKED THE CAPT OF THE B-757 LATER ON IF HE FLEW A NORMAL, IDLE, CLEAN, DSCNT. HE REPLIED 'YES' HIS WT WAS APPROX 180000 LBS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED HE WAS FLYING A 737-300. HE WAS 9 MI IN TRAIL OF A BOEING 757 AS DETERMINED BOTH BY TCASII AND CONFIRMED BY ATC. THE RPTR IN TALKING WITH THE 757 CAPT LEARNED THE 757 WAS ALSO DSNDING CLEAN AT IDLE THRUST. THE RPTR WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE AIR WAS SMOOTH. THE RPTR SUGGESTED ATC ADOPT A MINIMUM OF 5 MI BEHIND A 757 FOR A NON-HVY IN TRAIL. THE MAJOR MOTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAKE ENCOUNTER WAS RAPID ROLL L AND R OF ABOUT 40 DEGS IN EACH DIRECTION. THE FO ORIENTED THE AIRPLANE AWAY FROM THE IN TRAIL PATH TO ESCAPE AND AVOID FUTURE ENCOUNTERS. THE RPTR ESTIMATED THE ENCOUNTER LASTED ABOUT 7-9 SECONDS. THE RPTR DID NOT GET ON TO THE CTLS WITH THE FO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.