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Attributes | |
ACN | 319359 |
Time | |
Date | 199510 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mgy |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 50 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around landing other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in approach : visual |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 360 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 319359 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 35 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While in my landing flare (after completing a standard traffic pattern) I heard an aircraft at full power. Moments later I saw a green and white cessna 172 appear directly overhead at a distance between 20-50 ft. He subsequently broke off to the left and I lost sight of him. I continued the landing without incident. After securing the airplane at our south tie-downs, I walked to where I had seen the other cessna taxi in. The pilot met me about half way across the ramp. I asked him what had happened and he immediately became hostile, belligerent and confrontational. I let him curse and fume for a bit and subsequently calmed him down. He said he had been on final for almost 15 mi and felt that I had cut him off. He also claimed to have made position reports while inbound. I heard no such position reports from the cessna. However, I did hear 2 position reports from the piper I was following and they were loud and clear. The cessna pilot also took issue with my ability to judge distance in so far as, he claimed, when I reported 'turning a 1 mi final' that I was about half of that distance. This assertion on his part (in my mind anyway) invites the obvious rejoinder that, if he could see me while I was still at least 1/2 mi from the runway, why did he wait until he was (literally) right on top of me to initiate a go around? In closing, let me add that I subsequently rechked my position from where I reported '1 mi final' and it is almost exactly 1 mi. Also, it has come to my attention that assistant chief flight instructor witnessed the event from the cockpit of X while at the grass tie-downs with his student. He will also be receiving a copy of this report and another will be forwarded to NASA's ASRS program.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TFC WATCH ACFT HAS NMAC WITH C172 ON LNDG AT NON TWR ARPT.
Narrative: WHILE IN MY LNDG FLARE (AFTER COMPLETING A STANDARD TFC PATTERN) I HEARD AN ACFT AT FULL PWR. MOMENTS LATER I SAW A GREEN AND WHITE CESSNA 172 APPEAR DIRECTLY OVERHEAD AT A DISTANCE BTWN 20-50 FT. HE SUBSEQUENTLY BROKE OFF TO THE L AND I LOST SIGHT OF HIM. I CONTINUED THE LNDG WITHOUT INCIDENT. AFTER SECURING THE AIRPLANE AT OUR S TIE-DOWNS, I WALKED TO WHERE I HAD SEEN THE OTHER CESSNA TAXI IN. THE PLT MET ME ABOUT HALF WAY ACROSS THE RAMP. I ASKED HIM WHAT HAD HAPPENED AND HE IMMEDIATELY BECAME HOSTILE, BELLIGERENT AND CONFRONTATIONAL. I LET HIM CURSE AND FUME FOR A BIT AND SUBSEQUENTLY CALMED HIM DOWN. HE SAID HE HAD BEEN ON FINAL FOR ALMOST 15 MI AND FELT THAT I HAD CUT HIM OFF. HE ALSO CLAIMED TO HAVE MADE POS RPTS WHILE INBOUND. I HEARD NO SUCH POS RPTS FROM THE CESSNA. HOWEVER, I DID HEAR 2 POS RPTS FROM THE PIPER I WAS FOLLOWING AND THEY WERE LOUD AND CLR. THE CESSNA PLT ALSO TOOK ISSUE WITH MY ABILITY TO JUDGE DISTANCE IN SO FAR AS, HE CLAIMED, WHEN I RPTED 'TURNING A 1 MI FINAL' THAT I WAS ABOUT HALF OF THAT DISTANCE. THIS ASSERTION ON HIS PART (IN MY MIND ANYWAY) INVITES THE OBVIOUS REJOINDER THAT, IF HE COULD SEE ME WHILE I WAS STILL AT LEAST 1/2 MI FROM THE RWY, WHY DID HE WAIT UNTIL HE WAS (LITERALLY) RIGHT ON TOP OF ME TO INITIATE A GAR? IN CLOSING, LET ME ADD THAT I SUBSEQUENTLY RECHKED MY POS FROM WHERE I RPTED '1 MI FINAL' AND IT IS ALMOST EXACTLY 1 MI. ALSO, IT HAS COME TO MY ATTN THAT ASSISTANT CHIEF FLT INSTRUCTOR WITNESSED THE EVENT FROM THE COCKPIT OF X WHILE AT THE GRASS TIE-DOWNS WITH HIS STUDENT. HE WILL ALSO BE RECEIVING A COPY OF THIS RPT AND ANOTHER WILL BE FORWARDED TO NASA'S ASRS PROGRAM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.